Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?

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I was going to mention
True.
PLUS,.....FCA has the Jeep SRT8, the Trackhawk and the Durango SRT. All top performers in their categories. Chevy and Ford can't compete with those as far as performance in that group.

I was going to mention those as well! Give me either one of those SUVs and Id be happy.
 

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I've done quite a bit of reading while researching Tremec and a potential DCT for use in the GT500 and it has been a bit of an eye opener. Much of it from numerous driveline symposiums held around the globe within the past few years. It has changed my view on where we are headed as I see electrification/hybridization coming much sooner and to a much broader mix. I was initially shocked when I saw mention of dates and percentages of internal combustion engines that are still expected to be in use in a few years. For you gas burning aficionados, things are looking very gloomy.

Sooner or later we will get to the point where we don't see an ICE in something like a GT350/GT500 being offered anymore. At least not as the primary source of power. Not looking forward to it.

Interesting. I can see hybrids taking prominence in the future, but not EVs. I still don't see how they can ever be practical enough to replace ICE vehicles. Currently, we have approximately 1,000 years of untapped oil & natural gas reserves (that we know of...could be more?). There is no shortage. It's all about 'climate change' hysteria and global companies jumping on the bandwagon. Well, I'll never purchase an EV or hybrid, for that matter.
 

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Here’s the problem with electric vehicles. They only “work” in limited circulation right now.

There were 2,000,000 ev’s sold world wide last year. At $.12/kWh, and an average consumption of 50kwh per 100 miles (34 is the claim but nobody gets that in a city), the actual cost is $6 to drive 100 miles. A 30mpg ice vehicle costs $6.75-7.25 driver dependant to do the same task.

Thing is we have an economic and functioning system to supply a half billion cars with fuel every few days.

We do not have a power grid now or we’ll into the future that is even remotely close to offering this level of freedom to drive and travel.

The only way electric cars could work as the replacement for the current car population is if actually annual travel dropped to about 750 miles, and was so superfluous and uninhibited that nearly optimum speed was always maintained.

That’s not realistic. It makes more sense from a consumption perspective to put a nuclear reactor in every car, or get the engine to work off of blood. Blood is literally more readily available for this type of scenario than electricity.

Large cities have minor brown outs on a bi weekly basis sometimes 5 times a day. Tell me how an already over worked grid is supposed to charge up all these cars.

We have a shortage of blood in this country as well but at least there is a literal supply of it currently. Switching cars from a fuel source that works, is relatively cheap, and abundant for one that has a larger footprint due to its lesser equivalent energy per measurable usage is as moronic as claiming the vehicle itself is suddenly better for the environment when it literally will leave behind radioactive isotopes, and a horribly inefficient battery cell.

A 1957 Chevy driven 300,000 miles has a smaller carbon footprint than a 50,000 mile Toyota Prius.

The electric car is a way to make electricity so expensive it has no viable way to be purchased, so that it is only attainable via rations. Play the chess game. It’s designed to drive scarcity of an essential resource.
 
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" The electric car is a way to make electricity so expensive it has no viable way to be purchased, so that it is only attainable via rations. Play the chess game. It’s designed to drive scarcity of an essential resource."
No matter what reason a government gives for anything, the real answer is always "to take more control over your life."
 

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This all said, this generation of GT500 will probably be excellent. I don’t see them doing anything electric, or unabashedly stupid. It should shape up to be a very well received, very enjoyable car.

And if you listen to audio samples of test cars, they are manuals.
 

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" The electric car is a way to make electricity so expensive it has no viable way to be purchased, so that it is only attainable via rations. Play the chess game. It’s designed to drive scarcity of an essential resource."
No matter what reason a government gives for anything, the real answer is always "to take more control over your life."

Exactly
 

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and a hybrid Mach 1 for 2020....5.0L V8 + Electric + AWD...lights out Tesla Roadster
 

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Reveal is over. No GT500. Just a bullet.

LAME!

Guess I am going to look for a 2013/14 GT 500 or GT350R. Got to make up my mind. Tired of waiting.

Oh, yea... 2020 Mach 1 is gonna be electric. I'm starting to really dislike the direction Ford is taking the Mustang.

I mean, you could have just listened when I said it wouldn't be at NAIAS.
 

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Reveal is over. No GT500. Just a bullet.
LAME!
Guess I am going to look for a 2013/14 GT 500 or GT350R. Got to make up my mind. Tired of waiting.
Oh, yea... 2020 Mach 1 is gonna be electric. I'm starting to really dislike the direction Ford is taking the Mustang.
Yeah, pretty disappointing Marc.
I was looking at low mileage '13 and '14 GT500/one owner cars out there last night. Search set for 5k miles and less. Not much out there at all.
I didn't really spend a lot of time looking though.
 

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Yeah, pretty disappointing Marc.
I was looking at low mileage '13 and '14 GT500/one owner cars out there last night. Search set for 5k miles and less. Not much out there at all.
I didn't really spend a lot of time looking though.

There is a few on eBay.


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I'm impressed with the fact that they bumped up the power in the Bullitt over that of the GT.

What are the numbers? I just googled and saw the jalopinik article but no numbers.


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Who's freaking out? The Bullet is awesome, everything else was lame... converting the Mustang to a hybrid is a betrayal to the cars history.

I have know idea when the new GT500 is going to be released, but I don't feel like waiting anymore. If another opportunity comes around, I'm not waiting anymore. That opinion hardly qualifies as freaking out.
 

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Yeah, pretty disappointing Marc.
I was looking at low mileage '13 and '14 GT500/one owner cars out there last night. Search set for 5k miles and less. Not much out there at all.
I didn't really spend a lot of time looking though.

I think I made a mistake selling mine. It only had 3500 miles on it.
 

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