Anyone using a Dakaota Digital SGI-5 with Tremec Magnum XL trans conversion

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Anyone using a Dakota Digital SGI-5 with Tremec Magnum XL trans conversion

Has anyone had success using the SGI-5 to convert the output shaft speed sensor signal from the Magnum XL? I am currently using the Abbott box but am not really happy with it (speedo jumps around at low speed and dithers a bit at high speed. If I try to use cruise control the car chases the speed fluctuation so it's basically useless).

I've heard the Dakota box would also work but haven't heard of anyone using it on our '11-up cars. Has anyone had success with it?
 
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i have one. im going to install it today, just finished my swap. ill see how it goes, i have no clue as to what settings to use though for the "pulse per min", gonna take some playing around i guess.
 

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i have one. im going to install it today, just finished my swap. ill see how it goes, i have no clue as to what settings to use though for the "pulse per min", gonna take some playing around i guess.

Let me know how yours works once you get it going.

I'm not sure what JPC is selling; I purchased mine directly from Abbott. At a crawl the speedo will jump up to 50 mph then settle back down repeatedly. I believe the signal coming out of the Abbott box isn't real clean. Also I heard it won't measure speed past ~ 130 mph but I haven't had the chance to verify that.
 

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Let me know how yours works once you get it going.

I'm not sure what JPC is selling; I purchased mine directly from Abbott. At a crawl the speedo will jump up to 50 mph then settle back down repeatedly. I believe the signal coming out of the Abbott box isn't real clean. Also I heard it won't measure speed past ~ 130 mph but I haven't had the chance to verify that.

This sucks :(
 

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speedo is steady as can be, no problems. I also changed my tune so that the cars PCM uses the ABS sensors to interpret speed... so technically i dont even need the box. I'm going to test that theory later on in the week and see what happens. Doing this in the tune also will disable the cruise control.
 

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Would you mind sharing your settings for the Dakota box? Based on your feedback I am going to order one tonight. $80 isn't bad if it solves all my current issues.

What are you using for tuning software to switch the speedo input, SCT Pro Racer?
 

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speedo is steady as can be, no problems. I also changed my tune so that the cars PCM uses the ABS sensors to interpret speed... so technically i dont even need the box. I'm going to test that theory later on in the week and see what happens. Doing this in the tune also will disable the cruise control.


Im im installing a t400 in my car. What do I need to do to get the speedo to work?
 

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I have the one from jpc which is abbott which has been dead on accurate but still can't use cruise control. Lund did my tuning and said it is hit or mis depending on computer code so far he has got it to work in 3rd but not real helpful. They told me when they figure it out they will send me an update. So I would check your wiring and box setup send me a PM with an email if you want the instructions.
 
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We run the abbot box on all of our kits and in house installs and we havent had an issue.

We send out all of our boxes pre set for the Magnum XL swap. We've never had any issues with the speedo gittering before.
 

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Maybe I received a defective one or it's my wiring. Where are you guys tapping in for the positive power lead?
 

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Just an update on my car - tonight I cut the Abbott box out and installed the Dakota Digital box in its place. I didn't modify a single wire just swapped boxes and flipped the dip switches per Tremec recommendations. Lo and behold my speedo issues are completely resolved AND I can use my cruise control in any gear at any speed now. :D I still believe the output signal from the Abbott isn't real clean and that's why the cruise control doesn't work on some cars.

I used the Engineering Mode in the car to view the digital speedometer against my GPS, made a fine adjustment to the Dakota box and it's rock solid now. :rolling:

I have to wonder why everyone is using the $180 Abbott box when the Dakota is only $80 and does the job better (in my case anyway)??
 
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Wow good to know can you pm me the dakota settings? I have the abbott and cruise only works in 3rd gear, my speedo is accurate thought?
 

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Interesting thread. I had a weird issue with my abbott box awhile back but I traced it back to a loose wire. It has been good ever since I fixed the wire and double checked the snugness of the plug.

Here's a video I made of the issue.

Oh and PS, my speedo has been pegged with the t56 and abbott box so it's not limited to 130

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In the interest of helping someone else out, here are the settings for the Dakota:

The power, ground and input wires all go in the same places on the Dakota as they do on the Abbott. The output wire goes into OUT2. Dip switch settings: Off, off, on, on. Couse setting 13, fine setting 6 (I believe these May be the factory settings as I forgot to check them and my speedo was only out by ~ 10% right off the bat).

While driving the car you make fine adjustments to the speed by pressing the up and down buttons on the Dakota box. I had mine all set up within a few minutes and the cruise worked at any speed from ~ 30 mph to ~ 80 mph. Given some cars have had issues and others have not, your results may vary, but on my early '11 car it works perfect. So happy I can finally use the CC, now if I could just get the clutch to quit hanging up...
 

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Zombie thread revival. Just did my 6060 swap and can't seem to get my speedo to read with a Dakota digital box, what calibration gain did you guys set it to? They're no longer using dip switches, it's all programmed by + and - buttons on the box.
 

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Zombie thread revival. Just did my 6060 swap and can't seem to get my speedo to read with a Dakota digital box, what calibration gain did you guys set it to? They're no longer using dip switches, it's all programmed by + and - buttons on the box.

We installed a Magnum XL back in 2014 on my 12 GT 55D. The car is mostly stored but I want to make it a daily driver since it has low miles and i want to sell the ST Focus. Dash lights went crazy (blue moon intermittent) and the car runs like krap......P0702 came in output sensor code......I cleared the code it never came back but the speedo is lighting up like a christmas tree intermittent. There i alot of bad info out on the net. I have researched this for days. I have no box/Abbott/SGI-5e just the pigtails we got with the Tremec kit. It ran fine but this crazy ECU stuff is baffling. Why it ran fine and now this bull is what it is. I went back to OEM tune and no change.

American Muscle -
  • 2005-2010 Mustang applications are a direct plug-and-play with regards to the speedometer. 2011-up models will require speedometer recalibration via ECU tuning or a separate plug-in signal converter from sine to hall-effect signal, such as the Abbott Enterprises ERA or Dakota Digital SGI-1 (Not included).
JPC is selling the Abbott box....but I found this as well on S197 ---->

"Blew the getrag, had a magnum installed with all the proper upgrades to the driveline, it works great. 3 weeks later my Speedo quit working, every light on the dash pretty much came on, and I was sure it was due to the wiring on the new trans. Then suddenly it worked again...and it worked everyday for the following 8 months. Till last week, same issue. I thought maybe it was the signal from the Abbott conversion box, so i bypassed it, still
nothing. Read the voltage coming from the output sensor, it's working, as I'm getting AC volts as I turn the wheels. My little code reader says output shaft speed sensor circuit. But sensor is working. So this leads me to can bus, or the pcm? Any ideas?
I priced a pcm at Ford for 600
No idea how to price a can bus system
2012 mustang gt premium"

I will be calling Tremec direct since there is not alot of concise info on this. Again it ran like a beast when True Street tuned it to 423hp at the wheels N/A motor.

The AM written word above is vague. You can tune it via ECU tuner? Abbott calls it Pulse Ratio.....Abbott ---> However, this Pulse Ratio can be made to vary from the true when modifications are made which change the number of electronic pulses per mile on a particular vehicle. This is most commonly caused by changing the tire size (increasing the outside diameter of the tires will cause the tire to travel further before making a complete revolution), but other modifications could have the same result. When the Pulse Ratio is thrown off, the speedometer/odometer will be inaccurate and corrections must be made.

pulse per mile vs protocol sine vs hall 2 different things

edit - the JPC receipt from 3/2014 shows a coverter box manufacturer not listed but must be an Abbott....they might have wired it under the car in the extremes not sure.........don't see it. I should have researched this harder back in '14.....photos i see on the net show a hole in the shift boot and the converter in the console out of harms way......

not listing the shop now but will if this is the case and this #ucker was mounted outside the cabin..... P03000 misfire code now....the car stalls at idle...this whole gig is a #od damned mess.....

more in January after I heal up from the slice & dice
 
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I have mine working great now with the Dakota box except I have no cruise in 5th and 6th, but 1st-4th all work fine. Speedo is dead on though with no dash lights.
 

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