Do I need new control arm mounts with new UCA/LCA's

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I am going to be swapping on some BMR UCA/LCA's on my 11 it is the SVTPP not sure if that matters.

My question is when I am installing these do I need the mounts that they sell with them as well? Also any other recommendations to add with the control arms back there? Already have the panhard
 

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They are not needed but highly recommended. The stock mounts are flimsy to say the least. The lowers a lot of folks go with the relocation brackets. This gives you some adjustment in case you lower the car.
 

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I had the relocation brackets on my 2011 GT because I lowered the car 2in...

Hard to say if they helped with traction but they looked badass lol I'll eventually get them for my Shelby.

I never got the UCA, afraid of the NVH getting too loud...
 

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Lowers are highly recommended if you're lowered because they correct the rear geometry. As an added bonus they are adjustable, which is helpful if you know what you're doing. Upper is mainly for stronger mounting, but the BMR one has two holes for more adjustability as well.
 

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Upper OEM brackets are stamped steel. They also have much larger holes drilled than aftermarket brackets.
 

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Here is a side-by-side compro for the 2007-2010 oem and BMR UCA's and the 2011-2014 oem and BMR UCA's............

Shorter arm, flimsier UCM 2007-2010 on left
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You will notice that the oem 2011-up UCM is much more robust than the 2007-2010 in the picture below.

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But, if you are lowered, the UCM adjustment (upper or lower holes) is what comes into play for correct UCA adjustment......

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Above picture, in addition to showing the UCM mounting choices was also a comparison I did between the smaller 2007-2010 UCA through bolt and the 2011-2014 larger more robust hardware.

In my opinion, any 2007-2010 owner who is contemplating installing an upgrade UCA/UCM should consider the longer (better geometry), more robust 2011-2014 set up for their earlier car. I have had the 2011-2014 BMR UCA/UCM in my 2008 for about 5 years with no issues. <<Best of all, it adds the longer arm and beefier hardware as Ford found was needed as they increased HP and attempted to improve traction over the years of GT500 testing and development.

The UCM attachment bolt under the rear seat was even upsized (on right) for 2011........

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I am also contemplating these relocation brackets and LCA's to aid in traction. 1st and 2nd just spin right now. Has anyone actually seen a difference in traction with this install?
 

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These pieces are not going to instantly give you traction where you didn't have it before, but they do aid in making the car more stable in recovery and eliminate or minimize any wheel hop. Relocation brackets can improve the instant center, but it's more a tweak to improve weight transfer when you have traction. At least that's been my experience.

At some point we just have to accept the fact that many of these cars are making too much power after putting on big rubber and resorting to suspension mods and still blowing away the tires through 3rd gear. Dialing back the power may be the only solution to have traction. For me that would take a lot of the fun factor out of these cars. But there's a happy balance somewhere.
 

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These pieces are not going to instantly give you traction where you didn't have it before, but they do aid in making the car more stable in recovery and eliminate or minimize any wheel hop. Relocation brackets can improve the instant center, but it's more a tweak to improve weight transfer when you have traction. At least that's been my experience.

At some point we just have to accept the fact that many of these cars are making too much power after putting on big rubber and resorting to suspension mods and still blowing away the tires through 3rd gear. Dialing back the power may be the only solution to have traction. For me that would take a lot of the fun factor out of these cars. But there's a happy balance somewhere.


Thats what I was looking for. Thanks.
 

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