United Airlines New "Passenger Removal" Tactics

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Kinda crazy that they knocked a physician out, broke his nose, and busted a few of his teeth. I hope he owns the compny when he's done.
 

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amen brother @ learned his lesson. Incredible. Society is so stupid to show a drop of sympathy for the guy. Mind blown.

It's just a shame that dude will walk away from this ordeal MUCH wealthier than he already is (or presumably is).

It's also too bad that it was such an innocent, by-the-book guy that was harmed. Oh wait.
 

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It's insanity that society basically approves of somebody doing whatever they want when they want with no regard for the basic rules of life and law. Sure they messed up and should look after the customer, but to refuse to cooperate, you can't refuse. You can't defy authority and we are basically saying that it is okay to do so. Totally on the wrong side of the tracks on this one. There is a procedure or should be for this as regretable as it is. United apparently offers $ 150.00 travellers certificate for the inconvenience (to John Smith who complies), and that is not acceptable either. The government should enforce a minimum standard of fair treatment and care (food, lodging, concierge service etc.) to be properly executed and followed to award and prevent this from happening (disrupting your customers travel plans and itinerary and not paying fair and reasonable cost by the Company for the upset), but to just refuse you can't do that in society, that's not how life works. Until you own the airline, they are merely providing you a conditional service.
 
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The government should enforce a minimum standard of fair treatment and care (food, lodging, concierge service etc.) to be properly executed and followed to award and prevent this from happening (disrupting your customers travel plans and itinerary and not paying fair and reasonable cost by the Company for the upset), but to just refuse you can't do that in society, that's not how life works. Until you own the airline, they are merely providing you a conditional service.

Government regulations! You are on SVTP!!!!

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/04/11/united-airlines-doctors-dark-past/22035353/

This guy is a bad hombre!!!!
 

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Well that's just toward someone that's not deliberately acting like a behaviourally and mentally challenged adult. If all that's true it makes that squeal like a pig sound all that more arousing...
 

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Real solution would have been to offer a voucher big enough to get 4 volunteers. I have seen vouchers of $600 handed out on American for these scenarios.

Everyone handled it bad, but the airline handled it worse. Non of those union members stopped and used their brains.

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Next time I get pulled over I'm just going to be extremely combative until I'm asked to step out of the car. Then I'll refuse until I'm dragged out of the car. Then I'll sue. Seems like a surefire plan to me.
 

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From the perspective of the law, it's not hard to see how badly United screwed up and why this guy had rights in his situation.

Question for you all; If your wife or loved ones were on a plane, headed home, and you had to be back for work obligations, would you be so willing to stay behind?

Let's add more to this, since this case isn't so cut and dry. Now, add to everything above, the fact that they already boarded you, thinking everything is ready and set to go, and they forced you off the plane so that their employees can have your seat. Do you NOT feel like you have ANY rights in this situation at all?

Lastly, my main concern is not necessary this situation. My concern is that we are already dealing with TSA overreaching and getting way too aggressive and personal, now we have the airline companies add even more hostility and harassment to patrons. This is not acceptable, by either TSA or the airlines, and it continues to show the corrosion of our rights.
 

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From the perspective of the law, it's not hard to see how badly United screwed up and why this guy had rights in his situation.

Question for you all; If your wife or loved ones were on a plane, headed home, and you had to be back for work obligations, would you be so willing to stay behind?

Let's add more to this, since this case isn't so cut and dry. Now, add to everything above, the fact that they already boarded you, thinking everything is ready and set to go, and they forced you off the plane so that their employees can have your seat. Do you NOT feel like you have ANY rights in this situation at all?

Lastly, my main concern is not necessary this situation. My concern is that we are already dealing with TSA overreaching and getting way too aggressive and personal, now we have the airline companies add even more hostility and harassment to patrons. This is not acceptable, by either TSA or the airlines, and it continues to show the corrosion of our rights.

1. If I was being told by a police officer to leave the plane, after being told by an airline staffer to leave the plane, then yeah I'd probably get off the plane.

2. You don't have any rights on an airplane, whether your ass is in a seat or not. Sorry.

3. TSA had nothing to do with this. Airport security is who dragged the entitled-jackass-that-squeals-like-a-bitch off the plane, and deservedly so.
 

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Question for you all; If your wife or loved ones were on a plane, headed home, and you had to be back for work obligations, would you be so willing to stay behind?

Let's add more to this, since this case isn't so cut and dry. Now, add to everything above, the fact that they already boarded you, thinking everything is ready and set to go, and they forced you off the plane so that their employees can have your seat. Do you NOT feel like you have ANY rights in this situation at all?

Considering I lack an entitlement mentality, I might be annoyed but the adult in me would prevail. There is a place to fight and it isn't in the aircraft. Dave could have acted like an adult rather than the fool. Some reports claim his expulsion, the one the media has shoved down everyone's throats, came AFTER he re-entered the plane and sat back down. Of course though, this clown lacks any culpability. He cried worse than a bitch and now he's using Saigon as an excuse. Jesus Christ Almighty.
 
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Considering I lack an entitlement mentality, I might be annoyed but the adult in me would prevail. There is a place to fight and it isn't in the aircraft. Charlie could have acted like an adult rather than the fool. Some reports claim his expulsion, the one the media has shoved down everyone's throats, came AFTER he re-entered the plane and sat back down. Of course though, this clown lacks any culpability. He cried worse than a bitch and now he's using Saigon as an excuse. Jesus Christ Almighty.

Sorry but this logic is all wrong. That's some serious Chinese 1950's collectivist mentality and that gets you no where in this world.

A. By Fighting it on the plane and "being a little bitch" he made the news. Things will change because of this. Had he just got off the flight he wouldn't even be able to sue or get any compensation beyond what lame free tickets they promise.

B. **** United. Why should anyone who's paid good money be bumped to help them save money?

C. This has been debated to death. That crew could have driven down in a rental, flown another carrier or just been better planed. Or send 3 of the 4. Also, it is obvious the bumping selection process is very flawed.
 

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Dude did not comply and refused to cooperate. Then he squealed like a little girl when they decided to remove him. I swear I could see dollar signs in his eyes as they dragged him off the plane. Maybe they could have handled it differently, but it is what it is. Little Mr innocent set the whole thing in motion.
 

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Wow i didn't realize there were so many of you who think the airline was in the right. So let me get this straight, you buy a ticket with YOUR money for a specific destination at a specific time and somehow you guys think you have no right to what you paid for? In what world does that make any sense?

With that logic, you would be ok buying a burger at McDonalds, having your name/number called, then instead of giving it to you, they hand it to one of the employees instead and have you wait an hour for a new one to be made. This logic literally would not be tolerated anywhere else.
 
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Sorry but this logic is all wrong. That's some serious Chinese 1950's collectivist mentality and that gets you no where in this world.

A. By Fighting it on the plane and "being a little bitch" he made the news. Things will change because of this. Had he just got off the flight he wouldn't even be able to sue or get any compensation beyond what lame free tickets they promise.

B. **** United. Why should anyone who's paid good money be bumped to help them save money?

C. This has been debated to death. That crew could have driven down in a rental, flown another carrier or just been better planed. Or send 3 of the 4. Also, it is obvious the bumping selection process is very flawed.

Yes he made the news but for the wrong reasons. Notice what footage has been looped? Do you know why that is? Please answer. For a second I felt bad addressing him as Charlie (went so far as changing it to his real name) but he is using the Saigon Shell Shocked excuse. There isn't any horror in expecting a doctor to act like an adult. His behavior should not be ignored nor excused.

What matters here is legality and his contract with UV rather than your back seat planning. Of course his representation will claim UV and the police were wrong while he, a supposed adult, is free of any responsibility. The Chicago lawyer gave a new meaning to the term ambulance chaser.
 
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