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I'm following it. I bought mine knowing I'd add the coolers when I'm ready to track the car though.
 

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Tech package owners have a legitimate concern as some have also hit limp mode on the street.

Once the temp guage is enabled in the car you can also see transmission temps in the mid to high 200's during stop and go traffic. The transmission at that temperature will see a reduced life as the transmission fluid properties break down when remaining at that temp for so long.

It is more than just not being able to use the car on track or at autocross events.
 

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They dont have a concern. They want something for nothing.
To purchase the coolers on a 16 would cost 3k dollars. To purchase coolers aftermarket from ford costs 3k dollars. To purchase new 17 with tech and coolers oem would cost 3k more than there 16 tech cost.
They don't want to pay the extra 3k!!

They did not buy the coolers and now want Ford to pay for them.

If it was just about trans temp in everyday driving there would be no mention of the track in the suit. They would have specific data to back it up, 40 min driving in 78 degree ambient temp pulls power from the motor. I've seen nothing of that.


To answer the question there was a member who started a thread last month about this very topic. Said he was talking class action. Said, ford stated it was the most Track ready mustang ever.

I asked home to back up those statements. He couldn't. Turned out Fords own ads and press releases clearly state the 350/R being the most track ready mustang ever.
 

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Unfortunately, the diff cooler isn't as simple to have the factory cooler to work. The trans is and I'll probably do that eventually. What a lot of guys don't like is that Ford throws the warranty out the window. I still freaking love the car, I just wish I could drive it more...
 

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I knew I would be losing track performance, but I prefer the years of creature comforts over hours of track time. Now if they want to send me some cash, who am I to say no.
 

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They dont have a concern. They want something for nothing.
To purchase the coolers on a 16 would cost 3k dollars. To purchase coolers aftermarket from ford costs 3k dollars. To purchase new 17 with tech and coolers oem would cost 3k more than there 16 tech cost.
They don't want to pay the extra 3k!!

They did not buy the coolers and now want Ford to pay for them.

If it was just about trans temp in everyday driving there would be no mention of the track in the suit. They would have specific data to back it up, 40 min driving in 78 degree ambient temp pulls power from the motor. I've seen nothing of that.


To answer the question there was a member who started a thread last month about this very topic. Said he was talking class action. Said, ford stated it was the most Track ready mustang ever.

I asked home to back up those statements. He couldn't. Turned out Fords own ads and press releases clearly state the 350/R being the most track ready mustang ever.

Not all of us want something for nothing as you put it. While I could care less about a law suit the fact that a normal GT 5.0 can outlast a tech 350 is a bit disturbing. If it's a design flaw Ford should fix it on their own. Media and advertising was clear that you can drive to work then the track without any mention of a track or R package. I don't think Ford knew they had an issue when these cars came out however now that they do I think they should make sometype of a correction. A lawsuit however isn't the way I would go about this. The pure negative publicity alone on such a hyped up car could hurt future sales on similar special editions. I'm happy with my Tech car!! While I might not last on a track my boys will stay cool with my cooled seats!
 

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Not all of us want something for nothing as you put it. While I could care less about a law suit the fact that a normal GT 5.0 can outlast a tech 350 is a bit disturbing. If it's a design flaw Ford should fix it on their own. Media and advertising was clear that you can drive to work then the track without any mention of a track or R package. I don't think Ford knew they had an issue when these cars came out however now that they do I think they should make sometype of a correction. A lawsuit however isn't the way I would go about this. The pure negative publicity alone on such a hyped up car could hurt future sales on similar special editions. I'm happy with my Tech car!! While I might not last on a track my boys will stay cool with my cooled seats!

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Everything I saw for the track was was R and track pack. It even says it in the owners guide.

Where are your stats concerning gt v tech 350? Laps, ambient temp, oil temp, trans temp, temp when timing is pulled. I've seen nothing to back up these statements.
 

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I have.

They also talk about the magna ride even though it's not available on all models.

http://m.ford.com/performance/gt350/

This link shows the Track pack on track and the the R as race ready.

I still fail to see where Ford stated the base or tech 350 is the most track capable mustang ever.

View attachment 81453 I know it is. The the base 15/16 models did not come with magna ride.

The pic above is the track pack as you can see the larger black spoiler.

It's hard to prove what's Track capable. What's the definition? Is the fusion track capable. Well yes it can be driven on track.
 

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The GT350 Tech Pack was built for the people who care more about the image than the performance. You would think the fact that the Track Pack and R are equipped with extra gear for track duty would've clued them in that a base Tech Pack car isn't meant for all out track duty. It's for spirited street duty and mild track duty, at best. Basically for the old fogeys who suffer from mechanical sympathy and/or scaredy-cats who aren't willing to rev the engine out or even go full throttle on track.

If they care more about heated and cooled leather seats than they do about performance, then they got EXACTLY what they wanted. I don't see why they're whining about it now.
 

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I have yet to see Ford state the 350 tech pack is the most track ready mustang ever.

This quote doesn't mention the track or tech package.

“When we started working on this car, we wanted to build the best possible Mustang for the places we most love to drive—challenging back roads with a variety of corners and elevation changes, and the track on weekends,” said Raj Nair, group vice president, Ford global product development.

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I think anyone would rightly infer that they meant the GT350 is the spirited road car and the R is the hardcore track car. I'm still not seeing how the Tech Pack guys think they have a case.
 

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Ford will settle outside of court just to save time and money..Tech owners will get their $17.33 reparation in the mail by the end of the year.
 

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A transmission with a fluid capacity of 2.7L approx. You don't even need to leave the boardroom to figure it out a cooler would be necessary - which is also why it's standard on the 17's. Track street or strip it should not go into limp mode. If as much testing was done as they lay ground to, they can't deny they were aware of and ignored the problem. It has nothing to do with what people were told and what people expected.
 
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A transmission with a fluid capacity of 2.7L approx. You don't even need to leave the boardroom to figure it out a cooler would be necessary - which is also why it's standard on the 17's. Track strret or strip it should not go into limp mode. If as much testing was done as they lay ground to, they can't deny they were aware of and ignored the problem. It has nothing to do with what people were told and what people expected.


So....have you experienced overheating on the street?
 

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