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Your point was [supposedly] about you guys being told to shut up and get over yourselves when you complain. I posted that you guys do the same thing to Black people when we bring up grievances. What's the difference? Because modern day Blacks weren't/aren't slaves (which isn't the only grievance we have, BTW) means it's fine for you to tell us to shut up and get over it, but because your feelings are hurt by something today, means we have to listen to you complain all the time? Is that what you're saying?

I still don't see the difference. There's a grievance. People complain about said grievance. Said people are told to shut up and move on. Break it down for me.
Black people bringing up grievances that a) the people they're bringing them up to had NOTHING to do with and b) never actually happened to that person is clearly different. Unlike slavery, I can actually voice my complaint to the actual people perpetuating the problem that directly affects me. That's fundamentally different than holding an entire race of people responsible for the actions of 8 generations prior for their current problems. Nobody in this thread is asking blacks to "get over it" and forget it, they're asking them to stop scape goating. I would get the same push back if I were to say that this movie's title is the reason I arrested for dealing drugs this morning.
 

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... Nobody in this thread is asking blacks to "get over it" and forget it, they're asking them to stop scape goating. ...

The difference? You're still telling Black people not to talk about their grievances. Who are you to decide what they should be bothered by? You don't think it's valid. Therefore, they shouldn't talk about it?
 

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The difference? You're still telling Black people not to talk about their grievances. Who are you to decide what they should be bothered by? You don't think it's valid. Therefore, they shouldn't talk about it?

curious as to why you never answered my legitimate question, but can go back and forth a couple pages later?
 

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The difference? You're still telling Black people not to talk about their grievances. Who are you to decide what they should be bothered by? You don't think it's valid. Therefore, they shouldn't talk about it?
You need to read what I posted. Nobody is asking blacks not to talk about it, they're asking them not to use circular reasoning to blame and vilify current generations for something they didn't play a part in and are equally as appalled at because they're upset over self inflicted problems. It has nothing to do with telling someone what they are allowed to be bothered by.
 

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Man, to think, why is it that when whites were slaves, no one bats an eye.

Forgetting about the 19th century white slavery in Iran? Or the barbary slave trade where over a million whites were enslaved in north africa? Forced prostitution, sexual/human trafficking, galley slaves, etc.

Can't we all just get along? This is SVTP. Where the legendary hypercar 03/04 Cobra is highly sought after.
 

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Man, to think, why is it that when whites were slaves, no one bats an eye.
My great grandfather didn't work of his own free will. That was 1900 give or take a decade. Where my family is originally from blacks were given freedom before whites. Slavery existed in many forms throughout the decades but our education system is too Disneyfied to teach that some times.
 

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Man, to think, why is it that when whites were slaves, no one bats an eye.

Forgetting about the 19th century white slavery in Iran? Or the barbary slave trade where over a million whites were enslaved in north africa? Forced prostitution, sexual/human trafficking, galley slaves, etc.

Can't we all just get along? This is SVTP. Where the legendary hypercar 03/04 Cobra is highly sought after.

This is the United States. Who cares what happened in other countries.

You need to read what I posted. Nobody is asking blacks not to talk about it, they're asking them not to use circular reasoning to blame and vilify current generations for something they didn't play a part in and are equally as appalled at because they're upset over self inflicted problems. It has nothing to do with telling someone what they are allowed to be bothered by.

How are Black people vilifying Whites for slavery?
 

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This is the United States. Who cares what happened in other countries.



How are Black people vilifying Whites for slavery?

Well, because it's the same people that migrated from those countries that came here and apparently destroyed the Indians and treated anyone (blacks included) like utter shit that were crap compared to the dirt they walked on.

Just an observation.


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How are Black people vilifying Whites for slavery?
You're the one that said in another thread that Been Affleck should give up his money because his family at one point theoretically gained wealth from slavery.
 

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You're the one that said in another thread that Been Affleck should give up his money because his family at one point theoretically gained wealth from slavery.

Did I say he was a villain, evil, or racist? Not to mention, I sure as shit didn't say he should give up his money. I said he was able to get to where he is today because of generational wealth founded on slavery. And before you or anybody else says "That money was spent ages ago," perhaps you should first educate yourself on how generational wealth works.


Typical irrelevant deflecting. Those so-called "facts" are insignificant to the grand scheme and are probably outright lies. It's nearly impossible to get slave manifests and precise numbers of [White] slave owners and their slaves, but people can find surgically precise numbers of Black slave owners and the number of slaves they had? Yeah, right. Funny how y'all will gladly get behind people saying Blacks owned and sold slaves, but let someone say Blacks invented a lot of the things that revolutionized the country or that the actual first President was really a Black man, and you lose your minds trying to deny it.
 

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John hanson was the first "president." He served for one year.

He was a moor. Not "black"

The definition of a moor is a member of a Muslim people of Berber and Arab descent living in Northwest Africa.

Charlize Theron was born in South Africa. Is she black?

This back and forth is really getting stupid. You hate whites because you think all of us are idiots with blinders on living in denial and are not open minded enough to realize we are not our ancestors.

I really cannot stand people that keep holding on to things like racism. Get over it. You're a human being first and foremost. Act like one.
 

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This is the United States. Who cares what happened in other countries.



How are Black people vilifying Whites for slavery?

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't there a fair amount of black slave owners back in the day? Maybe that explains all the black on black crimes (insert sarcastic face). The fact of the matter is that the generations that want some kind of sympathy were never directly affected from being an actual slave. I am fairly certain the older generations have coped with it in their own way other then expecting something out of it in this day and age. Please explain the purpose of using slavery as a crutch in this day and age.
 

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Let someone say Blacks invented a lot of the things that revolutionized the country or that the actual first President was really a Black man, and you lose your minds trying to deny it.

So, I brought up the first President being black to a history professor and he said that was a lie that the historians stating this are wrong. He argued people are trying to rewrite history to ease the past race issues.

As for the inventors, I was told the reason they are not given credit is because the country did not allow patents to be held by non Saltine Americans.


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I could have sworn Europeans depicted Moors as being black from the time of the Middle Ages all the up to the 17th century.
 

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^^^ Yeah, but, this is the United States, who cares about slavery and slave owners in other countries, right?

True definition of a moor is a muslim inhabitant and this was a term mostly used in the middle ages.

Regardless, not sure how John Hanson being a 1-year president is relevant in an argument of how white people are evil and are direct descendants of evil ancestors and all other ethnic backgrounds are angels that do no harm to anyone.

This thread really needs to die as everyone's point is now moot.
 

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I could have sworn Europeans depicted Moors as being black from the time of the Middle Ages all the up to the 17th century.

Yes, they did and do. "Moor" is an ancient term for black.

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This thread really needs to die as everyone's point is now moot.

You're 100% welcome to excuse yourself from it. Everybody else seems to be having a civil exchange.
 

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Did I say he was a villain, evil, or racist? Not to mention, I sure as shit didn't say he should give up his money. I said he was able to get to where he is today because of generational wealth founded on slavery.

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]Shall we contact all the Paula Deans, Ben Afflecks, et. al. of the world and tell them they need to give up their riches gained from their long-dead ancestors' ownership of slaves? They weren't alive when those riches were gained, so they shouldn't be privy to them now.
 

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