Intake manifold porting pictures... your thoughts please

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Looks like you opened up the rear and cut it back to allow more access the intercooler. Should drop under the blower temps considerably now that you exposed around 10-15% more of the intercooler. Less chance of pulling spark. Im curious what gains you will see. I know stiegiemier said he had some guys picking up some mph at the track was seeing lower air temps. Im surprised more people dont do this. Accessing more of the intercooler to lower the air charge temperatures on these cars would be a great benifet. Looks great cant wait to see how much you drop the under blower temperature.
 

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It exposed 11/2 more of the cooler.. never seen anyone polish the bottom plate the air is directed to after exit to make its turn back up.. each inlet is rounded also.. from years if experiance working with a flow bench radius before the inlet is needed to get accurate flow numbers so why not inside the manifold itself...
 

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I did it myself. I have spent 18 years as my job porting heads and 2 stroke cylinders. I did what I thought would work best.. I will have to check out Kenny bells recommendations on this.
 

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Since you had to break out the welder, you should have cut the complete floor of the bypass plenum area out and replaced it with a sheet of aluminum to expose more of the intercooler.
 
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Only the 2 front bolts holding the inner cooler had to be shortened snd only removing the part without threads. Now for referance of more surface area being polished vs ruff. Shoots down every porter using traction lines or leaving a ruff finish to slow down airflow. To help air slow make the short side before the valve
 

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To slow down air flow on the short side.. Sorry For the above last sentence . I was scared of warping the oring surface welding so close to it. Your sheet metal install looks great !
 

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I was thinking about the big gun this winter for less pressure buildup/ parasitic loss. Has anyone noticed a bit less boost with the biggun/intake porting?
 

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These are the only 2 bolts that needed trimming front the front of the cooler..I installed the bolts were they needed to be bofore I started grinding. JB water weld is what I have used for 8 years with great luck in intake ports. It holds up to e85 and oxy fuels like MR9. I will use the JB water weld to fill in my exposed holes for final assembly. The front 2 bosses that are directly under the blower outlet in my opinion disrupted airflow. Now making a spacer the bottom plate sounds like a great idea.. Does anyone make one ?
 

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There is one thing wrong with this intake manifold. once modified in this manner, the intake can never be used on a street driven car. Why? Because the bypass system has been eliminated. Without a bypass system the supercharger will not last 10 miles while the car is being driven at part throttle. The bypass system allows air to recirculate across the rotors of the SC to cool them. Essentially it let the air exiting the SC to blow through the intercooler and come back to the inlet of the SC. It is nothing but a big circle of airflow matching the CFM output of the SC versus what the engine isn't using. The SC is a constant air pump. If the engine isn't in boost, yet the SC is spinning fast enough to provide 15 psi of boost for that engine at that moment, the air has to bypass and wrap back into the inlet of the SC. To not allow this to happen causes the SC to run with an airflow deficit, which builds enough heat in the rotors for them to expand to the point of contact. Once the rotors touch each other, the SC needs to be repaired or replaced depending on how bad it is.

The stiegiemier picture i posted was the work he does on road race/drag race cars. He does not recommend that port for street purposes. Everytime ive seen these ported, the screw bosses were always ground flush. I just assumed it was considered a standard when porting the manifold. Like you said, most likely minimal gains if any. But if its already on the bench.....
 

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The boosted world is fairly new to me. shearing, port wall separation and needing to slow down before the valve all changes under boost? Here is a picture from slawkos site. CNC stuff that is still touched up by hand. The fastest standing mile Ford GT has slawko heads on it est 2500hp. The heads in the picture look pretty smooth, I would guess 220-320 grit finish
 

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The boosted world is fairly new to me. shearing, port wall separation and needing to slow down before the valve all changes under boost? Here is a picture from slawkos site. CNC stuff that is still touched up by hand. The fastest standing mile Ford GT has slawko heads on it est 2500hp. The heads in the picture look pretty smooth, I would guess 220-320 grit finish
 
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