snow performance

[jemorgan]

Has anyone put meth injection on there 03/04 Cobra ? If so how well did it work for you , I just recived my stage 2 maf kit with safety injection , my current setup is build motor , KB 2.2 21#, and all the other usual bolt ons ..

 

[GodStang]

Do a search. There is tons of stuff on this.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/engine-tuning-214/643899-meth-kits-03-cobras.html
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/engine-tuning-214/657488-meth-injection-after-blower.html
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/engine-tuning-214/595367-anybody-ditching-intercooler-meth.html
http://www.svtperformance.com/forum...483-anyone-using-methanol-there-03-cobra.html
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/turbo-cobras-247/588471-looking-feedback-meth-water-inj.html
http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/terminator-talk-229/612581-wanna-run-meth-all-time.html

Just a start for ya.

 

[jemorgan]

thanks , there seems to be some good and some bad that people say about using meth on positive displacement blowers , well I have already got the kit and I need it to run 20 plus #'s on a DD , thanks for all the info .....

 

[venom1997]

i have the same one on my 97

 

[novi2000]

Has anyone put meth injection on there 03/04 Cobra ? If so how well did it work for you , I just recived my stage 2 maf kit with safety injection , my current setup is build motor , KB 2.2 21#, and all the other usual bolt ons ..

I have a compound boost setup running dual nozzle 100% meth and my data logs show my IAT2 temps go from 120 to right at 80 once the meth injection comes on plus you get the added octane from running the alcohol.

 

[jemorgan]

40 degree drop in IAT , thats nice

 

[novi2000]

40 degree drop in IAT , thats nice

That is on the dyno.

 

[SlowSVT]

I have a compound boost setup running dual nozzle 100% meth and my data logs show my IAT2 temps go from 120 to right at 80 once the meth injection comes on plus you get the added octane from running the alcohol.

Can your motor tolerate running max boost without it?

 

[novi2000]

With the right fuel yes, I run it more for the octane bump than the cooling aspect. I have tried the snow performance kit took it off and now run the Alky Control Kit with 100 Methanol.

 

[SlowSVT]

With the right fuel yes.

That is a "given". What happens with the wrong fuel which is what you are likely running?

You know where I'm going with this.............

 

[novi2000]

This is where the tune is important, the way mine is setup is to monitor air temps and if the meth stops flowing the ECU will save the motor. My kit includes a test button which I use to test the pump. Yea the pump can stop working, but I stand more of a chance of one of my tripple walbro pumps failing which btw has happened. I have a buddy with the same kit that has made 900 on 93 and a Dual nozzle kit 100% meth with twin billet wheel turbos.

 

[SlowSVT]

This is where the tune is important, the way mine is setup is to monitor air temps and if the meth stops flowing the ECU will save the motor. My kit includes a test button which I use to test the pump. Yea the pump can stop working, but I stand more of a chance of one of my tripple walbro pumps failing which btw has happened. I have a buddy with the same kit that has made 900 on 93 and a Dual nozzle kit 100% meth with twin billet wheel turbos.

There are both advantages and disadvantages running water/meth injection. From what I have seen people have had mixed results running this system. I don't think a PD blower gets as good results compared to a turbo or centriffy which is why they aren't used very widely in these cars. Personally I would tune the car to make power without it and back it off to add a margin of safety then use the injection system as an added insurance policy to protect the engine. That should make for a bulletproof installation.

Tune the car to max the power output and the life of your engine is dependent on whether the injection system is working correctly. I am willing to give up a few hp (like this car doesn't have enough to begin with) to prevent wasting an engine. Things always fail at the worst possible time :nonono:

Jim Bell chimed in on this topic a few years ago and was very adimit about not using a water/meth injection system and the risk they can carry in these cars.

Are you running a return or a returnless fuel system? The pulse modulated pressure regulation is hard on the pumps and won't be as reliable as a return system running 100% duty cycle.

 

[novi2000]

There are both advantages and disadvantages running water/meth injection. From what I have seen people have had mixed results running this system. I don't think a PD blower gets as good results compared to a turbo or centriffy which is why they aren't used very widely in these cars. Personally I would tune the car to make power without it and back it off to add a margin of safety then use the injection system as an added insurance policy to protect the engine. That should make for a bulletproof installation.

Tune the car to max the power output and the life of your engine is dependent on whether the injection system is working correctly. I am willing to give up a few hp (like this car doesn't have enough to begin with) to prevent wasting an engine. Things always fail at the worst possible time :nonono:

Jim Bell chimed in on this topic a few years ago and was very adimit about not using a water/meth injection system and the risk they can carry in these cars.

Are you running a return or a returnless fuel system? The pulse modulated pressure regulation is hard on the pumps and won't be as reliable as a return system running 100% duty cycle.

I am running a Fast XFI with return style.

 

[SlowSVT]

I am running a Fast XFI with return style.

Holy tamoli, between engine management and your fuel system there is $5000 between them

Does that puppy have any kind of knock sensor to protect the engine? That would be the tits.

 

[novi2000]

No knock sensor, but the Fast has some other tunable fail safes for Meth Injection.