Man In Wheelchair Brandishing Knife Shot 9 Times

[Booky]

A Tucson police officer has been fired after he was accused of shooting a shoplifting suspect in a wheelchair nine times, killing him, after the man brandished a knife.

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[Lambeau]

What does LEO training say to do?

 

[COOL COBRA]

Comply with officers commands. Especially if you’re packing a huge knife.

 

[4.698gt]

Officer training for an able bodied person is out then down.
Assuming the man needs the wheel chair due to an inability to move freely on his accord, I don't know club the bastard and slap cuffs on him?
The what ifs are big. Is he a lazy schmuck who just uses the chair and could stand off and become a bigger threat.
In the end, officer is probably going to be railroaded

Edit: Not an LEO, is there officer specific training for disabled and/or handicapped persons /suspects?

 

[DSG2003Mach1]

n the end, officer is probably going to be railroaded

saw something yesterday he was already fired

 

[ZYBORG]

Now THAT’S a party!


**** wheel chair guy for pulling a knife, no shits given. Cop is a retard tho, he also managed to kill his career and future.....

Edit: I think cop should have tried some other method or escalation of force before he dove head first into lethal force.

 

[Shadow Grey 03]

Damn. Lady at the door working at Lowes has zero survival instinct. She just froze watching it unfold and was in the line of fire. Then, didn't move until how many shots were off? Not saying I'd have been in any mind set to gtfo, but seeing that I'd hope I would atleast get out of that sight line. Shit.

 

[96dreamer]

Well that appears to be pretty ****ed up....

 

[CobraBob]

saw something yesterday he was already fired

Yeah, I read that yesterday on Fox News, as well. Watching the video, and knowing he had a knife but no gun, it would seem that this didn't have to end like it did. I get that he was trying to go back into the store to perhaps attack employees (??), but those are details we don't know. That store employee frozen at the entry point was in his path so maybe he would have tried to attack her. ?? But he is restricted to the wheel chair. He cannot stand, walk or run. Maybe Brett or another LEO (or former) here can voice their opinion on this one. Wonder why they didn't try to disable the wheelchair or pin it until they could use a stun gun or mace on him. ??? Or just use a stun gun or mace as soon as he turned around to head back to the store entrance.

The guy was 100% wrong in not complying with the officers, but dang, I just don't see why deadly force was needed. That is probably why the officer who shot him was fired. A quick firing like that would seem to point to him recklessly not adhering to established protocol. ??

I hope a LEO or former LEO can comment.

 

[598]

Yet again you expect the cop to know everything about any and all potential threats, after the fact. Guy is using a wheelchair, but how does the cop know he needs the wheelchair. What if we wait 3 more sceonds and the wheelchair guy jumps out of it and kills the idiot girl who has froze up at the entrance?

What happened in my eyes is that the cop gave the person in the chair (with a drawn weapon) as much time as he possibly could to comply with police orders to stop. I'm calling this suicide by police without seeing the whole unedited thing. Every time I see someone who is clearly not following reasonable police orders and posessing a weapon, they are the ones taking their own life in their hands, and they KNOW its the cops job to stop them at some point. What part of that is hard to comprehend?

I'm directing this to the OP, not cobra bob, but the question and statement apply

 

[jaxbusa]

Obviously bad situation all the way around. The officer could have been thinking about a possible headline of officer let man back in store and stab people he threatened earlier. Screw the wheelchair man. Just because someone is seated in a wheelchair doesn’t mean they can’t get up and kick your butt. All bets are off when you have a weapon. If the officer uses mace, the subject still has the ability to cut someone. If the officer grabs the chair he could get cut. If the officer tases the subject he only has 5 seconds to kick the knife away, which probably wouldn’t be easy because he’s in a chair. I will bet that wheelchair guy is off mental meds or intoxicated. The only person that got hurt was the guy with a knife going back in the store with people.


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[ZYBORG]

Yet again you expect the cop to know everything about any and all potential threats, after the fact. Guy is using a wheelchair, but how does the cop know he needs the wheelchair. What if we wait 3 more sceonds and the wheelchair guy jumps out of it and kills the idiot girl who has froze up at the entrance?

What happened in my eyes is that the cop gave the person in the chair (with a drawn weapon) as much time as he possibly could to comply with police orders to stop. I'm calling this suicide by police without seeing the whole unedited thing. Every time I see someone who is clearly not following reasonable police orders and posessing a weapon, they are the ones taking their own life in their hands, and they KNOW its the cops job to stop them at some point. What part of that is hard to comprehend?

I'm directing this to the OP, not cobra bob, but the question and statement apply

I very much agree with your assessment. No way to know whether the guys was legit handicapped or posing. All he knew is he had a knife out and not following directions. He was heading into a store and could have potentially hurt people if not stopper. Had the officer tried to grab the wheelchair or stop him, who is to say that the knife guy would have slashed at him and cut him or worse...

too many what ifs.....

but God damn, that looked pretty bad for the officer... guy is ****ed for sure....

 

[olympic]

Should have laid down the spike belts and then pitted him! In all seriousness though the officer did the right thing and obviously didn't have less lethal options (Taser) available. Wheel chair guy could have easily stabbed or slashed that employee standing at the door. The only other option that I could think of is to drop kick the guy out of the wheel chair but that's certainly not a technique taught in police academy. The officer had seconds to make a decision and did as he was trained and used his gun to stop the threat.

 

[DoneItDeliberate]

That cop is about to be fired and will likely be charged per a statement from his supervisor today. The statement basically said that this was not a reasonable use of deadly force.

Also, not complying with police should not be a death sentence.

 

[598]

Not complying with police when you have a weapon displayed?

 

[ZYBORG]

98% of people just don’t understand how deadly someone can be with a knife when at close range (7 yards or less).

i still think cop could have tried something else and not shot the due several times, pause and then shoot again.
I think perhaps a couple of shots center mass, pause and observe dude’s behavior and go from there... lol

 

[blk02edge]

Sure doesn't look good.... But only thing I can say for sure is there's no way I'd want to be a cop

 

[DoneItDeliberate]

Not complying with police when you have a weapon displayed?

Should not be a death sentence. IMHO wheelchair guy was a threat but he didn't deserve to be shot (9x) to death for non compliance.

 

[mysticsvt]

Guy running at Cop with knife…shoot. I can’t help but think in this case a tazer would have worked sufficiently. I’m going excessive force used to cease the threat.

 

[Shadow Grey 03]

So, according to liberal "logic", yeah I know, we should treat everyone the same. So why does someone in a wheelchair deserve to be treated differently than someone who isn't?