Let the recalls begin!

[GOTSVT?]

What is going on at Ford?
Just got a "possible brake pedal fracture" for the Shelby.
My new F350 platinum diesel needs a fuel rail replaced.
I just went through months of BS having to lemon the wifes new
Edge ST.

 

[tones_RS3]

Damnnnnnnnnn.
Yeah,....Ford is racking up the quality issues/recalls. Not so great.

Remember the Ford slogan,..........Quality is job number one?
I changed it to,..........Quality is job number none.

 

[me32]

You can thank Hackett for the quality control. Why do you think hes out and Farley is in.

What year edge ST? What was wrong with the ST? Just picked one up on black friday. Pretty badass ride.

 

[DAVESVT2000]

This is why you buy a Shelby with a stick

 

[fearthesnake]

Yep. Ford gone to far on cost cutting measures and this is the result. Wouldn't buy a new Ford if my life depended on it these days. Most of my friends that have recently purchased 2018 and up 5.0's, Edge, Raptor are having problems.

 

[Tob]

The recall covers certain auto S550's too, not just GT500's.

Ford used a glass reinforced nylon for S550 brake pedal pivot brackets, without issue. Somebody at Ford decided to push for some cost savings here and as a result, the material used was changed to polypropylene (also reinforced with glass fiber). Ford witnessed a few polypropylene bracket failures, voluntarily instituted this recall program, and as a result are removing the polypropylene units and going back to nylon.

The brackets are 100% identical, aside from the material change. The ribbing, fillets, radii, physical size and dimensions have not changed. No new reinforcement in the pivot area that failed.

The savings per bracket was very small but the choice to make the change is now proving to be very costly. The question is, how did Ford's both virtual and real world testing/evaluation not reveal the failures customers witnessed?

 

[me32]

The recall covers certain auto S550's too, not just GT500's.

Ford used a glass reinforced nylon for S550 brake pedal pivot brackets, without issue. Somebody at Ford decided to push for some cost savings here and as a result, the material used was changed to polypropylene (also reinforced with glass fiber). Ford witnessed a few polypropylene bracket failures, voluntarily instituted this recall program, and as a result are removing the polypropylene units and going back to nylon.

The brackets are 100% identical, aside from the material change. The ribbing, fillets, radii, physical size and dimensions have not changed. No new reinforcement in the pivot area that failed.

The savings per bracket was very small but the choice to make the change is now proving to be very costly. The question is, how did Ford's both virtual and real world testing/evaluation not reveal the failures customers witnessed?

Is it possible someone knew and was told to keep there mouth shut? Kinda like what happened with the Fiesta/Focus DCT?

 

[kazman]

They should've let me test it, I seem to break everything I touch.

 

[Tob]

Is it possible someone knew and was told to keep there mouth shut? Kinda like what happened with the Fiesta/Focus DCT?

No doubt a lesson was learned there, hopefully. I'm quite certain they are very careful about internal memos, recorded meetings/minutes, emails, etc. Regardless, somebody screwed up.

For that matter, Ford didn't have the GT500 included in the recall at the start. It took some uncovering to show them that the brackets on the GT500 were Polypropylene and they finally added the GT500 to the list. How are they not in tune with what they produce?

 

[5.0 Hatch]

There was a recent article about warranty cost being way up on ford. I will say I got rid of a 2015 f150 after 3 leaking oil pans and traded it in with a leaking head gasket. My brother has a 2018 that had some sort of camp phaser issue on a 3.5. My buddy has the exact same on a 2017.

Seems they move on with changes year after year without perfecting it.

 

[03Cobra05GT]

I got the bracket one as well, but I also got one for my Shelby for the rear camera flickering or going out completely at random times. It's funny because this was irritating me but not to the point of actually taking it in because I didn't want someone messing with the car. If I popped the trunk and closed it again, problem fixed. I assumed something lose but apparently it must be more than that if there is a recall for it as well.

 

[Snoopy49]

No doubt a lesson was learned there, hopefully. I'm quite certain they are very careful about internal memos, recorded meetings/minutes, emails, etc. Regardless, somebody screwed up.

For that matter, Ford didn't have the GT500 included in the recall at the start. It took some uncovering to show them that the brackets on the GT500 were Polypropylene and they finally added the GT500 to the list. How are they not in tune with what they produce?

They knew the GT500 was included from the beginning, but for some reason they didn't get it on the list until the last minute.

 

[Relaxed Chaos]

Ford is all about margin now, not about the customer.

Gets rid of cars because margin is not F150 high.

Cuts major corners on new products to drive up margins to F150 levels.

End result? Loyal customer gets boned on new products. Ford loses young customers due to no offerings.

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[tomshep]

Does this recall require removing the dash assembly or can it be done from under the dash?

Tom

 

[Tob]

They knew the GT500 was included from the beginning, but for some reason they didn't get it on the list until the last minute.

What they knew and what they did were two different things. When the initial announcement was made they even provided the NHSTA with the wrong part number. And I can tell you that well in advance of what you may have read elsewhere, there were people working behind the scenes to determine how deep the scope was. Ford refused to admit or acknowledge that the GT500 was included until well after the initial announcement. In the meantime, owners such as myself were out tracking a vehicle that Ford subsequently encouraged to not be tracked (until fixed). That's poor management in my view. And dangerous as ****.

 

[MG0h3]

They do this with cars, yet people think elections are real.

Just cheat more than them.

End of story.


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[SID297]

What is going on at Ford?
Just got a "possible brake pedal fracture" for the Shelby.
My new F350 platinum diesel needs a fuel rail replaced.
I just went through months of BS having to lemon the wifes new
Edge ST.

What's the story on the PSD and ST?

The recall covers certain auto S550's too, not just GT500's.

Ford used a glass reinforced nylon for S550 brake pedal pivot brackets, without issue. Somebody at Ford decided to push for some cost savings here and as a result, the material used was changed to polypropylene (also reinforced with glass fiber). Ford witnessed a few polypropylene bracket failures, voluntarily instituted this recall program, and as a result are removing the polypropylene units and going back to nylon.

The brackets are 100% identical, aside from the material change. The ribbing, fillets, radii, physical size and dimensions have not changed. No new reinforcement in the pivot area that failed.

The savings per bracket was very small but the choice to make the change is now proving to be very costly. The question is, how did Ford's both virtual and real world testing/evaluation not reveal the failures customers witnessed?

Have any pics of the parts for comparison?

 

[GOTSVT?]

The ST was a 19 I bought new, went back to the dealer 3 times for limp mode, 4th time the motor blew its load.
They don't know what happened. It had a bunch of electrical gremlins. Its a fun car to drive however, when it was working.
After 4 months of it sitting, Ford gave us another new one.
I should have walked away after that, but didn't.

 

[Cobranator]

Not trying to absolve Ford of anything but it looks like the brake pedal issue is not their fault. Now I know what some of you are thinking that Ford should do a quality control on all parts being supplied to them and I'm sure they did at the outset but the supplier changed the part during the manufacturing. It was the supplier that changed the material in the manufacturing process without Ford's knowledge.

According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), the bracket can fracture without warning at the point where it pivots if the driver slams on the brakes, which would increase the risk of an accident by making the Mustang tremendously difficult to stop. Ford said the faulty bracket comes from Canada's KSR International, and the problem stems from the supplier's decision to replace nylon with polypropylene in the manufacturing process. Cars covered by the recall were built between March 4, 2019, and August 13, 2020.

Owners of affected cars will receive a recall notice in the mail, and they will need to take their Mustang to the nearest Ford dealer to have the bracket replaced free of charge. Although dealers have already received information about the campaign, owners shouldn't expect to see the recall notice until November 16, 2020.

Ford began investigating the problem in August 2019, when its Critical Concern Review Group (CCRG) looked into three identical reports of bracket failures. As of September 2020, its team has identified four incidents in the European market, and two in North America, which is surprising considering the Mustang is far more common on this side of the pond. The company noted it's not aware of any accidents or injuries linked to the bracket problem.



Ford recalls 38,000 units of the 2020 Mustang to fix brake pedal

 

[Tob]

The supplier, by contract, cannot unilaterally change materials. This was Ford's decision. Research it further. Ford signs off on design/engineering changes. The wording used in some of those articles doesn't tell the whole story. To imply Ford had no idea regarding the materials change simply isn't true.