What’s the plan for your estate?

What’s the plan for your estate?

  • Split between family and charity

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Twisted2v

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Haha. Some mod added leave it to SVTP lol

thanks for all the votes so far
 

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Maybe so, but 15 years of school is not for everyone. Plus, for every one MD, we need probably 20 skilled workers. Just because one doesn't become a doctor, doesn't mean they're destined to be a peasant.

I'm not saying American born citizens shouldn't strive to be whatever they want. But realistically, not many have the brains, desire, or finances to go through med school.

A childhood friend is an anesthesiologist. Don't get me wrong, he's now making great money, but we graduated in 2005 (he was 2nd in our class of 88). I bet he was nearly $400,000 in debt coming out of school, if not more.

Our valedictorian was a genius, but had no desire to be a doc. He's now an accountant.

At this point I'm rambling, but skilled trades is where the real shortage of labor is and will be. Not high-end paying medical doctors.



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No, American kids have a disadvantage. I’m sure there’s foreign kids that learn medicine real early, and it’s free.

You just move in and make a lot of money from the way I see it. Maybe they enroll here for a short period, but who cares at a doctors salary. Please let me know if I’m wrong.
 

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Too many charities have a ridiculous operating cost (lining their pockets).

I won’t even give money to street bums. I’m helping them kick their drug and alcohol habit.

Bought 2 $4 squares of banana bread off some dude and his kid in front of the grocery store the other day. Dude was covered in prison tats and probably can’t get much of a job so I can support him finding a way to scrape some money together.


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No, American kids have a disadvantage. I’m sure there’s foreign kids that learn medicine real early, and it’s free.

You just move in and make a lot of money from the way I see it. Maybe they enroll here for a short period, but who cares at a doctors salary. Please let me know if I’m wrong.
I feel like there's a lot of ignorance in this view.

American kids at a disadvantage? How? That our school systems already teach things that a majority of the population will not use in their profession? That kids aren't even taught about taxes, investing, and and other financial topics? Sure, they could have a disadvantage because they're not learning things that apply to real life. I'm a manufacturing engineer and I've never used Algebra 2 or Pre-Cal in 15 years of working.

Foreigners just move in and make a lot of money? They still have to do the schooling, regardless where it takes place. If they want to practice in the States, they have to pass all the same requirements to do so that a citizen does. It's not like there's a separate set of rules and regulations between the two.

In the end, it comes down to individual responsibility, work ethic, and desire to do what one wants. Not some systemic issue that's holding American kids back from becoming a doctor or a welder.


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I feel like there's a lot of ignorance in this view.

American kids at a disadvantage? How? That our school systems already teach things that a majority of the population will not use in their profession? That kids aren't even taught about taxes, investing, and and other financial topics? Sure, they could have a disadvantage because they're not learning things that apply to real life. I'm a manufacturing engineer and I've never used Algebra 2 or Pre-Cal in 15 years of working.

Foreigners just move in and make a lot of money? They still have to do the schooling, regardless where it takes place. If they want to practice in the States, they have to pass all the same requirements to do so that a citizen does. It's not like there's a separate set of rules and regulations between the two.

In the end, it comes down to individual responsibility, work ethic, and desire to do what one wants. Not some systemic issue that's holding American kids back from becoming a doctor or a welder.


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Every year, roughly 4,000 foreign doctors come to the US on J-1 visas for residencies at teaching hospitals, which rely on Medicare funding to pay their salaries.

If kids were exposed to medical education in the U.S. you can bet more of them would be doctors.

They get out of HS at 18 and have to take 2 years of gen-eds so you’re 20-21 before beginning to be exposed to material of your future profession.
 

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A good mindset, but we’re losing high paying jobs like doctors to foreigners. Our kids are their receptionists, nurse assistants and maintain their buildings and land.
Not entirely true - 2 Pinocchio's out of 5. Tons of high paying jobs in tech that require US Citizenship and Security clearances. Entry level for Sr scientist $47/hr @ 50 Hours a week
 

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@nickf2005 "Maybe so, but 15 years of school is not for everyone. Plus, for every one MD, we need probably 20 skilled workers. Just because one doesn't become a doctor, doesn't mean they're destined to be a peasant."


LOL, every time I read comments like that I think of Caddy Shack, where the kid tells the rich guy he needs money for school and the rich guy replies:

"The world needs ditch diggers too, son!'

Roflmao....

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@nickf2005 "Maybe so, but 15 years of school is not for everyone. Plus, for every one MD, we need probably 20 skilled workers. Just because one doesn't become a doctor, doesn't mean they're destined to be a peasant."


LOL, every time I read comments like that I think of Caddy Shack, where the kid tells the rich guy he needs money for school and the rich guy replies:

"The world needs ditch diggers too, son!'

Roflmao....

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I have to be honest.... I've never watched that movie. #mancardatstake

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Not entirely true - 2 Pinocchio's out of 5. Tons of high paying jobs in tech that require US Citizenship and Security clearances. Entry level for Sr scientist $47/hr @ 50 Hours a week

So kids have to rely upon government regulations to secure a high paying job?

Teaching kids about medicine early not only leads to them becoming doctors, but researchers, pharmaceuticals, etc.

If you don’t remember, the U.S. was paying millions to the Wuhan lab, so make sure you pay your taxes homie. We probably don’t know all the other medical facilities outside the US being paid by us.

Even Facebook hires a ton of visa workers.
 

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So kids have to rely upon government regulations to secure a high paying job?

Teaching kids about medicine early not only leads to them becoming doctors, but researchers, pharmaceuticals, etc.

If you don’t remember, the U.S. was paying millions to the Wuhan lab, so make sure you pay your taxes homie. We probably don’t know all the other medical facilities outside the US being paid by us.

Even Facebook hires a ton of visa workers.
He provided a mere example. Theres plenty of private sector, non-medical jobs out there that will pay close to and above 100k.

Again, why teach 100 kids about medicine when 1, maybe 2, of them will want to use it? Especially when you get into rural America where even a smaller percentage couldn't care less to be a doctor. They want to weld, build things, fix things, and possibly own their own small business. How about we teach those things?

Seems like a waste to teach the whole bunch just because you're scared somebody from India is going to be your doctor.

I know several (American born) pharmacists and none of them were "taught medicine" prior to going to college. They're doing just fine.

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So kids have to rely upon government regulations to secure a high paying job?

Teaching kids about medicine early not only leads to them becoming doctors, but researchers, pharmaceuticals, etc.

If you don’t remember, the U.S. was paying millions to the Wuhan lab, so make sure you pay your taxes homie. We probably don’t know all the other medical facilities outside the US being paid by us.

Even Facebook hires a ton of visa workers.
you realize medicine is a highly regulated field, right?
 

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So kids have to rely upon government regulations to secure a high paying job?

Teaching kids about medicine early not only leads to them becoming doctors, but researchers, pharmaceuticals, etc.

If you don’t remember, the U.S. was paying millions to the Wuhan lab, so make sure you pay your taxes homie. We probably don’t know all the other medical facilities outside the US being paid by us.

Even Facebook hires a ton of visa workers.

lets say you are very very ill. the hospital admin comes in and says they have the best network of doctors in the world to treat whatever problem you may have. do you reply "give me the best doctor you have that was born in the USA" or do you want the best doctor?
 

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Well, I give to charitable organizations and my church throughout the year. I don't have a husband anymore, so his and my estate will go to my son and his three kids.
 

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I saw this post earlier and didn't think much of it but after leaving the ER with my wife an hour ago I thought I'd post. Estate.....you just never know. Ruptured cyst on her ovary, rather painful I hear. When the male nurse administered the morphine she start what appeared to be having a seizure. Lasted nearly an eternity...which was about a minute. I honestly thought she was dying. I'm screaming for the dude to get some help and trying to talk to her holding her face trying to calm her down. Doing nothing and feeling helpless. They came in and started prepping her for god knows what. She started to come out of it and leveled out. I'm no doctor but after talking to a RN just now I'm saying he administered the morphine way too damn fast and possibly way too damn much. Just Hell Man.
 

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Is she okay now? I hope so. Everything can change in an instant. My son was rescued yesterday out in the bay. His kayak sank. Thank God he had a lifejacket on and the Fire Department was able to get to him.
 

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Is she okay now? I hope so. Everything can change in an instant. My son was rescued yesterday out in the bay. His kayak sank. Thank God he had a lifejacket on and the Fire Department was able to get to him.
Glad you’re son is ok man, great news.

Thanks for asking..Yes. She didn’t sleep much last night nor did I. We’ve been down the ruptured cyst road a few times. Headed to Walgreens to get pain pills and UTI meds in a few. She’s hurting but it should fade in the next 24. Next time I will be rather adamant about the dosage and time it’s put into her IV.
 

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I am an attorney and my practice was 95% estate planning when I was in active practice. One of my clients came to me and told me about how she ended up doing her plan. Her husband was in a nursing home (so we were doing some medicaid planning as part of her needs). He had promised her that he would work on their estate planning for years. He told her, "I promise you that before I turn 55 we will see an attorney and get it done". At 54 he had a stroke and ended up in the nursing home for care.

So what I would tell people who would ask, "when should I do my estate plan?" -- how about NOW while you still can?
 

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He provided a mere example. Theres plenty of private sector, non-medical jobs out there that will pay close to and above 100k.

Again, why teach 100 kids about medicine when 1, maybe 2, of them will want to use it? Especially when you get into rural America where even a smaller percentage couldn't care less to be a doctor. They want to weld, build things, fix things, and possibly own their own small business. How about we teach those things?

Seems like a waste to teach the whole bunch just because you're scared somebody from India is going to be your doctor.

I know several (American born) pharmacists and none of them were "taught medicine" prior to going to college. They're doing just fine.

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I’m not scared of Indian doctors but I have seen enough of them to know they are total shit.

I’m sure that not everyone wants to be a doctor, but it was one example.

The reason that most kids want to “build things” is because that’s what they learn outside of school, or watching tv ie American Chopper, and it’s much more feasible than anything they’re learning in school.

I repeat, doctor is just one example, but glad you’re fine with your daughters being their receptionist bitches for a little over minimum wage.
 

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I’m not scared of Indian doctors but I have seen enough of them to know they are total shit.

I’m sure that not everyone wants to be a doctor, but it was one example.

The reason that most kids want to “build things” is because that’s what they learn outside of school, or watching tv ie American Chopper, and it’s much more feasible than anything they’re learning in school.

I repeat, doctor is just one example, but glad you’re fine with your daughters being their receptionist bitches for a little over minimum wage.
You're a dense individual. I give up. You win.

Sorry OP that this went off the rails.

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