Kobe Bryant Dead?

[Kevins89notch]

Profiteering is already happening. The cheapest ticket for tomorrow's Laker game is running 4-5 times higher than their other games. Sad indeed.

Supply and demand. Someone has tickets, and yet paying down a bill is more important. If someone is willing to pay $1,000 for a $200 ticket...so be it.

 

[Outlaw99]

The helicopter was doing way more the just hovering and barely moving as someone said. Was traveling at 180mph and decending at 4000 feet per minute. Thats moving!!

Photos: All nine victims of the California helicopter crash identified

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[03Sssnake]

The helicopter was doing way more the just hovering and barely moving as someone said. Was traveling at 180mph and decending at 4000 feet per minute. Thats moving!!

Photos: All nine victims of the California helicopter crash identified

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That is more like falling than flying....unless the pilots were disoriented in the heavy fog, i.e. spatial disorientation, as in flew it inverted into terrain.... then I'd suspect something catastrophic happened. Those last few moments had to be absolutely terrifying...

 

[Tifosi2003GT]

That is more like falling than flying....unless the pilots were disoriented in the heavy fog, i.e. spatial disorientation, as in flew it inverted into terrain.... then I'd suspect something catastrophic happened. Those last few moments had to be absolutely terrifying...

Imagine hearing your daughter scream and dead is going to happen.. Nothing you can do.

I hate flying and I'd never get in a helicopter. I'll take 3 hrs in traffic any day

 

[ZYBORG]

That is more like falling than flying....unless the pilots were disoriented in the heavy fog, i.e. spatial disorientation, as in flew it inverted into terrain.... then I'd suspect something catastrophic happened. Those last few moments had to be absolutely terrifying...

You ain’t kidding. Have thought about this myself.

Not only are you about to die and you know it, but your baby is with you. NOTHING you can do.

 

[Blown 89]

That is more like falling than flying....unless the pilots were disoriented in the heavy fog, i.e. spatial disorientation, as in flew it inverted into terrain.... then I'd suspect something catastrophic happened. Those last few moments had to be absolutely terrifying...

Over 80% of fatal crashes are due to pilot error either in the air or missing something in the pre-flight.........if they even bothered to go through a pre-flight checklist at all.

I just noticed there were quite a few kids on that flight. Jesus Christ that's terrible.

 

[jeffh81]

Yall proved me right with that insanity of postings about someone you dont know from Adam. Especially about a meme It’s a tragedy anytime someone goes out in their prime. It’s awful those children died like they did.

@Corbic if you got a problem you ran into me on another forum and I outed you as a troll after you acted an ass. Make a Callout Thread in Smackdown

 

[03Sssnake]

Over 80% of fatal crashes are due to pilot error either in the air or missing something in the pre-flight.........if they even bothered to go through a pre-flight checklist at all.

I just noticed there were quite a few kids on that flight. Jesus Christ that's terrible.

it takes several thousand hours to move up to something like the S-76, this guy had apparently been flying for 11-12 years and was also an instructor, so I'd say he was qualified and performed his job...Though anything is absolutely possible, especially under the flying conditions, perhaps it was pilot error. Eye witnesses report hearing it sputter in the moments leading up to the crash...but how reliable are those accounts? Fortunately there is a black box on the S76, so they should be able to get the data, telemetry necessary to shed light on this crash. There is usually never one cause, it's typically a cascade of failures whether human, mechanical, or both.

 

[MG0h3]

Imagine hearing your daughter scream and dead is going to happen.. Nothing you can do.

I hate flying and I'd never get in a helicopter. I'll take 3 hrs in traffic any day

I like flying in helicopters. Although I’ve only flown with military and LE that I knew were flying daily for the last decade.

Had a few coworkers all survive an engine failure. Successfully auto rotated and walked away.

Mil did an auto rotate with me onboard, but fired it back up before the ground. That was ****ing scary!


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[MG0h3]

it takes several thousand hours to move up to something like the S-76, this guy had apparently been flying for 11-12 years and was also an instructor, so I'd say he was qualified and performed his job...Though anything is absolutely possible, especially under the flying conditions, perhaps it was pilot error. Eye witnesses report hearing it sputter in the moments leading up to the crash...but how reliable are those accounts? Fortunately there is a black box on the S76, so they should be able to get the data, telemetry necessary to shed light on this crash. There is usually never one cause, it's typically a cascade of failures whether human, mechanical, or both.

I just watched a video of a guy that claims it sounded like the helicopter was barely moving or almost hovering. Said it was extremely low but the fog was so thick he still couldn’t see it. Said the sound eventually travelled toward the hills where he heard it crash.


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[Blown 89]

it takes several thousand hours to move up to something like the S-76, this guy had apparently been flying for 11-12 years and was also an instructor, so I'd say he was qualified and performed his job...Though anything is absolutely possible, especially under the flying conditions, perhaps it was pilot error. Eye witnesses report hearing it sputter in the moments leading up to the crash...but how reliable are those accounts? Fortunately there is a black box on the S76, so they should be able to get the data, telemetry necessary to shed light on this crash. There is usually never one cause, it's typically a cascade of failures whether human, mechanical, or both.

The transcripts were just released. Pilot error:

The good news is that they probably had no idea they were about to die and went peacefully.

 

[Blown 89]

I just watched a video of a guy that claims it sounded like the helicopter was barely moving or almost hovering. Said it was extremely low but the fog was so thick he still couldn’t hear it. Said the sound eventually travelled toward the hills where he heard it crash.

The radar shows that they were not hovering/barely moving. It looks like they just ran square into the ground.

 

[Coiled03]

I'm the kind who doesn't give a damn about an athlete or celebrity in terms of elevating them as I am sensible to the point of keeping things in perspective. An individual who dribbles a ball does not change your life and if it does, the person who feels his life is changed should do some reflection.

Actually, you routinely confuse "keeping things in perspective", with just being an asshole. The worst part is you take pride in it.

Just because you've never been inspired by an athlete doesn't give you the right to judge those who may have been.

 

[big reg]

One of the best minds in sports and probably in general. Just part of what he did a short time after retiring and just before to set himself up for his next challenge to keep the Mamba Mentality alive.

Actually, you routinely confuse "keeping things in perspective", with just being an asshole. The worst part is you take pride in it.

Just because you've never been inspired by an athlete doesn't give you the right to judge those who may have been.

Just a snippet of his mind and what he did off the court. This chapter was just being started too.

The business empire that Kobe Bryant leaves behind

 

[03Sssnake]

The transcripts were just released. Pilot error:

The good news is that they probably had no idea they were about to die and went peacefully.

it's my understanding they were ascending when advised they were too low. I will wait for the NTSB to look at flight data recorder, cockpit recorder information, i.e. the whole picture of what unfolded. This investigation has only begun.

 

[Coiled03]

One of the best minds in sports and probably in general. Just part of what he did a short time after retiring and just before to set himself up for his next challenge to keep the Mamba Mentality alive.
Just a snippet of his mind and what he did off the court. This chapter was just being started too.
The business empire that Kobe Bryant leaves behind

I know, man. His second act was going to be epic. He had already accomplished so much after basketball.

 

[Rare40th]

The amount of impact he had, not only his family or the local community, but the millions or even billions of people worldwide is what makes this a little tragic. Add on the other friends/families on board and those they leave behind just gives you the sentiment to be a little more grateful.

I hope they didn't suffer and it happened before they could understand what was happening

 

[SolarYellow]

Actually, you routinely confuse "keeping things in perspective", with just being an asshole. The worst part is you take pride in it.

Just because you've never been inspired by an athlete doesn't give you the right to judge those who may have been.

When society places an athlete (who plays a G-A-M-E) onto an elevated plateau, the right to judge is there for the taking. At the time the news of this man's death hit, the focus wasn't on what kind of father/husband/son/friend/person but it was on his occupation which, IMO, is trivial in the grand scheme of things. Not trying to bust your nuts but back in post numero fifty eight you used the adjectives "horrible and terrible" when describing such a death. Since you seem sensible, how did you feel when Dr. Stanley Dudrick died last week? His work is credited with SAVING millions of lives. Mourning a death should be done for the right reasons.

 

[SVTdreamin04]

I never thought a thread like this would upset so many members.


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[Coiled03]

When society places an athlete (who plays a G-A-M-E) onto an elevated plateau, the right to judge is there for the taking.

No it's not. Under no circumstances do you have the right to tell someone else how to feel, or judge them for it. Disagree with it all you want. But to look at down at someone else for having a different set of people they look up to, idolize, or whatever is assinine.

At the time the news of this man's death hit, the focus wasn't on what kind of father/husband/son/friend/person but it was on his occupation which, IMO, is trivial in the grand scheme of things.

No, it wasn't. The focus was on ALL aspects of his life, as it should have been. I'm sure you would know since you paid such close attention to the death of someone you care nothing about, being an athlete and all. Oh wait......

Not trying to bust your nuts but back in post numero fifty eight you used the adjectives "horrible and terrible" when describing such a death. Since you seem sensible, how did you feel when Dr. Stanley Dudrick died last week? His work is credited with SAVING millions of lives.

I'd qualify that as horrible, and terrible, too, now that I know of it. Until just now, I had never heard of the man, and knew nothing of his work.

BUT......I don't think that lessens the impact he had on the world, or the great work he did. See how that works? It's not a zero sum game. It's possible to grieve for both, even if the value in both isn't equal in your mind.