6.0hhno Powerstrokes: need opinions

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My father has a 05 ccsb 6.0. He bought with 120k on it and 4 years later is has 165k. It’s bone stock with coolant filtration system. Mechanically it’s been perfect. But just based on the age of the truck things are starting to fail due to rust and age. He’s replaced bed rails, ac condenser, trans cooler lines, all 4 brake calipers, gauge cluster and driveshaft center bearing this year alone. So they can nickel and dime you. Which is why I bought a 6.7 instead of a 6.0.
 

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I think good mileage is relative. My truck gets similar mileage to my buddies 2011 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 and my grandfathers 2016 F150 with the 5.0 unloaded. When loaded I get a lot better mileage than either one. I think almost 20mpg in an 8600lb truck is pretty damn good. Especially since it's still 100% stock.

A local guy picked up a 6.0 and did the bullet proofing himself. I think he's into the truck for $21k for everything.
 

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Have not read all responses in the thread. That being said I have owner 4 2005-2007 6.0 powerstrokes and have loved every single one of them. Bought my harley truck with blown head gaskets, had them done at reputable shop while doing all the other "while you're in there" stuff (dummy plugs, stand pipes, STC fitting, oil cooler etc) for $4k out the door and for the next 32k miles before I sold it never had a single issue. Only sold it because some kid gave me all the money for it and i went and bought a new Platinum ccsb 6.7. Also love that.

Also had a 2005 6.0 that I bought already "bulletproof" with 225k that never game me any issues. Also had a single cab 2wd 2..6 6.0 with 220k bone stock that i tuned and beat the bag out of any never had problems.

My brothers 2006 6.0 he bought bone stock at 100k and was tuned and deleted without issues until 170k when a month ago he took a wrong turn with his 40ft 5th wheel camper on the back and ended up going up a 10% grade for 3 miles at which point he boiled coolant and oil temps 240+ and finally blew it up. It should be out of the shop with gaskets and studs this week.

Long story short: if you can find them without rust, they are great trucks. 6.4s have pistons issues and can cost $15-20K for a shortblock. Early 6.7s have glow plug, and fuel system issues which also can cost $10k plus. In the long run, 6.0s have become cheap to maintain. I think they got a bad rep when they first came out because the 7.3 was so damn bulletproof but good lord are they slow and lacking power lol. Love 6.0s.
 

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Went through 2 EGR repairs, then at 180K miles I bulletproofed my 2004 6.0

I used Bulletproof on the oil cooler, the tank, EGR, and replaced the head gaskets and ARP studs (Bulletproof has a kit). Put a mild MPG/HP tune on the truck at the same time.

Drove the truck until 260K with no issues.

Sold the truck (it was/is super clean) to a fellow locally. He has 280K on the truck with no issues.

Hope this helps.

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You do not buy an 8k pound truck , and expect to get good fuel mileage.
Maintenance on a diesel is twice that of my V 10, I still have reasonable torque , still get to the top of the hill , just not at 70 with 15,000 in tow .
I bought my 99 super cab short bed 4x4 , 6 inch lift on 36 's , with 135k miles .
That was 6 or so years ago , and I am currently at 250k .
I have replace brakes twice , a Set of spark plugs , and the a/c compressor .
Just maintenance , oil , filters , tires .
Market value today is actually at or more than I paid for it.
I understand your point, but unloaded MPG is an important metric to me. Im not sitting here thinking that I will ever get 30 mpg out of a Super Duty. Im not naive. But Im totally over the 3 vehicles for 1 person thing. Owned my Shelby, my Excursion and a Corolla at one point. Im over keeping track of 3 cars that all have needs, lol. I want my Shelby and a daily, and the daily needs to be a capable vehicle and get respectable fuel mileage. If I can average 15-16mpg unloaded, Im good with that if its capable of hauling a 21,000 pound 5th wheel when it needs to.

I need to get better than 8.4 miles per gallon unloaded, and thats my calculated by hand average since my Corolla got totaled 3 weeks ago. I havent had to tow with the V10 yet. But my guess is that Ill get 4mpg downhill with a jet turbine for an assist on a good day.

Being in the auto industry myself, Im fortunate to get parts and service at cost +10% with an absurdly low labor rate if Im feeling lazy. Or the job is over my head. Not too worried about cost of owning a diesel.

We are close to the launch of the 7.3L Godzilla/10A in the wild. If its capable of hauling a load like a 5th wheel and unloaded getting 14-15mpg average, Ill absolutely consider it over a diesel. But that 6.7 is starting to look very appealing if my Shelbys paid off.

That 6.0L is STILL very tempting....
 

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4:30 gears and i have a manual .
V10 will sing all day long at hi rpms, and still perform very well .
Do you ever think to yourself ,I wounder why all those motor homes come with that sly V10 ?
Probably because they are reliable and get the job done .

Im not saying it's not a work horse because it is. IMO there are better gas options though.

Huh..

Youre only the second guy I have ever heard who likes that old big block. Even my chevy buddy thinks it's garbage.

The 2nd guy huh? lol.... the BBC is arguably the most popular motor ever, ever, EVER; and for good reason. Maybe only overshadowed by the small block chevy?

They are great towers which makes me think you've never used one for heavy towing.

Also, there is a MASSIVE difference between a TBI 454 and a tuned Vortec-headed 454. Massive. Fueling was a big problem with the TBI units. They had great off the pedal torque, but fell flat on their face after 2000 rpm or so. Proper fuel injection and better heads on the 96+ motors were fantastic.
 

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Im not saying it's not a work horse because it is. IMO there are better gas options though.



The 2nd guy huh? lol.... the BBC is arguably the most popular motor ever, ever, EVER; and for good reason. Maybe only overshadowed by the small block chevy?

They are great towers which makes me think you've never used one for heavy towing.

Also, there is a MASSIVE difference between a TBI 454 and a tuned Vortec-headed 454. Massive. Fueling was a big problem with the TBI units. They had great off the pedal torque, but fell flat on their face after 2000 rpm or so. Proper fuel injection and better heads on the 96+ motors were fantastic.

Back in my teens we had a TBI injected crew cab dually with the 454. It got 9-10mpgs going uphill, downhill, loaded, and unloaded. We had a slide in camper and it used to do pretty good with it. But like you said, it ran out of breath quick.

My mom's husband is part of a race team that has a newer extended cab dually with the Vortec 454. They tow 25+ foot boxed trailer with it and they said it'll pass anything but a gas station. I think 8mpg is the average.
 

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Im not saying it's not a work horse because it is. IMO there are better gas options though.



The 2nd guy huh? lol.... the BBC is arguably the most popular motor ever, ever, EVER; and for good reason. Maybe only overshadowed by the small block chevy?

They are great towers which makes me think you've never used one for heavy towing.

Also, there is a MASSIVE difference between a TBI 454 and a tuned Vortec-headed 454. Massive. Fueling was a big problem with the TBI units. They had great off the pedal torque, but fell flat on their face after 2000 rpm or so. Proper fuel injection and better heads on the 96+ motors were fantastic.

I wasn't picking on the BBC in general, just that particular one in comparison to what else was available shortly after.

I have never towed with one, I have driven one and other than first gear I was kind of surprised at how labored it seemed considering the size. Maybe it's been too long.

My dad used to use one at work for towing when he worked in recycling, I always thought it was so cool (dually), but they ended up replacing it pretty soon after.
 

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Back in my teens we had a TBI injected crew cab dually with the 454. It got 9-10mpgs going uphill, downhill, loaded, and unloaded. We had a slide in camper and it used to do pretty good with it. But like you said, it ran out of breath quick.

My mom's husband is part of a race team that has a newer extended cab dually with the Vortec 454. They tow 25+ foot boxed trailer with it and they said it'll pass anything but a gas station. I think 8mpg is the average.

sounds like the early/mid 90s F350 we had with a 460, 9mpg, all the time
 

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jk, @lexustech48 Whether you get it from a dealer or Private party, you should arrange with them to bring it back to your shop for a buyer's inspection from *your mechanic*.. when really you can go over it carefully. You probably planned to do this anyway..

I'm am legit scared of Ford Diesels, but it seems like if you find a 6.0 with some paperwork, it will be a solid rig.
 

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I wasn't picking on the BBC in general, just that particular one in comparison to what else was available shortly after.

I have never towed with one, I have driven one and other than first gear I was kind of surprised at how labored it seemed considering the size. Maybe it's been too long.

My dad used to use one at work for towing when he worked in recycling, I always thought it was so cool (dually), but they ended up replacing it pretty soon after.

Nice. I’ve had a few square TBI dually’s. Might be time for another soon.

I worked at a construction yard before I joined the Navy and we got an extended cab long bed SRW with the 460. That thing was a lot of fun. It would light up the tires at will.


I had a 94 1 ton reg cab 4x4 with the 460 and it was torquey as hell!


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I have a 05 excursion that has the bullet proof egr, ficm, oil cooler. So far it’s been a great truck.

Like another person mentioned. Change the oil every 5k with rotella and fuel filter every 10k. Get a monitor and try to floor the thing every now and then when driving it.
 

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Had an '06 CC 4X4 for about four years, it was a love hate relationship for sure. That said, no ****ing way i'd buy another one. My 7.3's never let me down...

Good luck...
 

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I know all about the 6.0L Powerstroke's issues: Starts in the oil cooler, coolant side getting clogged with broken down coolant, starving the EGR cooler causing it to burst and fail, leading to failure of the cooling system which leads to blown head gaskets.

Would you guys stand to reason that 6.0 Powerstrokes that are still running are probably ok? They are certainly an intriguing engine, and it seems that bulletproofing a 6.0L for stock or a little bump in power will solve the 6.0L's problems.

Would you guys be afraid of a bulletproofed 6.0L? Id love a 6.7, but cant do the payments. I guess the other question is this: Is a 6.0L Super Duty still a viable pickup truck? Id love a 7.3, but I cant find one thats reasonable with under 300,000 miles.
don't do it man ! for the love of kittens and baby jesus ! dont , touch, with, 20 , foot, pole.

just stay away from diesel unless you can go 7.3 lol. And even then, you are running into little bull shit.

get a v10 gasser. That bitch will pull anything will zero issues.
 

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don't do it man ! for the love of kittens and baby jesus ! dont , touch, with, 20 , foot, pole.

just stay away from diesel unless you can go 7.3 lol. And even then, you are running into little bull shit.

get a v10 gasser. That bitch will pull anything will zero issues.
Thats unfortunately the problem brother. Ive got a 2001 Excursion with the V10 and she's averaging 8.4 mpg unloaded. Its a VERY smooth engine and moves the 4-ton Excursion around effortlessly. Drive belt tensioner failed, snapped the drive belt and laughed it off. Its a tough engine for sure. The mileage is abysmal unloaded and only going to plummet under a real load.

I want something that will last a long time (possibly the last daily I want to buy for a few decades), have a high towing capacity, be a tank for future little ones, and get respectable mileage unloaded. 15-16 unloaded on 2.79 a gallon diesel is better to me than 8.4 mpg on regular unleaded.

That means a payment on it, i understand that. Once its paid off its still a 15-16 mpg truck and can haul more and do it with less effort. With maintenance that I can easily do there's no reason I shouldnt get many many miles and years of use out of a Powerstroke.

I suppose Im starting to come around to the idea of a 6.7 Powerstroke. The Shelby should be paid off this spring so Ill have a payment to play with again. Really digging the 2015-2016 Super Duty F-350 SRWs.
 

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Thats unfortunately the problem brother. Ive got a 2001 Excursion with the V10 and she's averaging 8.4 mpg unloaded. Its a VERY smooth engine and moves the 4-ton Excursion around effortlessly. Drive belt tensioner failed, snapped the drive belt and laughed it off. Its a tough engine for sure. The mileage is abysmal unloaded and only going to plummet under a real load.

I want something that will last a long time (possibly the last daily I want to buy for a few decades), have a high towing capacity, be a tank for future little ones, and get respectable mileage unloaded. 15-16 unloaded on 2.79 a gallon diesel is better to me than 8.4 mpg on regular unleaded.

That means a payment on it, i understand that. Once its paid off its still a 15-16 mpg truck and can haul more and do it with less effort. With maintenance that I can easily do there's no reason I shouldnt get many many miles and years of use out of a Powerstroke.

I suppose Im starting to come around to the idea of a 6.7 Powerstroke. The Shelby should be paid off this spring so Ill have a payment to play with again. Really digging the 2015-2016 Super Duty F-350 SRWs.

I don't know how you're driving, but I was getting that kind of mileage out of a 2009 F-350 V10 while towing 10,000 pounds.
 

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