Ford will offer light weight 2020 GT500

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Ok, so we can't know what car is faster unless a paid, professional driver is doing it. I was actually expecting to have someone say that I had too much experience to be "typical", so touche. I'm ok with bench racing until the cows come home.

The important thing to look for on that list I posted is the class.

S = Sport (basically filter, exhaust, tune, 200TW tires)
T = Tuner (a few more mods, 200TW)
M = Modified (full adjustable suspensions, internal engine modifications, 200TW)
U = Unlimited (race cars on slicks)

I run a basically stock Camaro ZL1 in the S1 class and I was the 7th fastest overall in a field of 100 cars. Most GT350R times I've seen wouldn't have broken the top 25.

Seat time, giving it 100% attention/focus, and having brains/balls will get great driver mod lap times.

I’ve personally left c7 z06’s in the dust in canyon runs in my 2003 fortified lasagna noodle because I felt comfortable going faster in the corners.

The real truth is a drive uses a car, just like the man makes the money.

You can probably go almost as fast in a ss 1le on the same track as you do with the zl1 because it shows you are carrying momentum and speed in corners. The vast majority of people struggle to toe the line and carry speed, then try to make up in the straights but wash out the next corner with late braking and ruin the next straight with late entry/slow entry.

To hone, start with slow cars and learn momentum. Also dramatically reduces engine temps, brake temps, and oil/fuel usage lap to lap since you are using physics instead of effort to carry and keep speed. You’ll use up tires the faster yer laps get usually though unless yer slow laps are ugly
 

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Seat time, giving it 100% attention/focus, and having brains/balls will get great driver mod lap times.

I’ve personally left c7 z06’s in the dust in canyon runs in my 2003 fortified lasagna noodle because I felt comfortable going faster in the corners.

The real truth is a drive uses a car, just like the man makes the money.

You can probably go almost as fast in a ss 1le on the same track as you do with the zl1 because it shows you are carrying momentum and speed in corners. The vast majority of people struggle to toe the line and carry speed, then try to make up in the straights but wash out the next corner with late braking and ruin the next straight with late entry/slow entry.

To hone, start with slow cars and learn momentum. Also dramatically reduces engine temps, brake temps, and oil/fuel usage lap to lap since you are using physics instead of effort to carry and keep speed. You’ll use up tires the faster yer laps get usually though unless yer slow laps are ugly
if he spent a lot of time in an ss1le he'd end up faster than he is now. Theres a reason all pro's start out in slow cars
 

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if he spent a lot of time in an ss1le he'd end up faster than he is now. Theres a reason all pro's start out in slow cars

True sentiments regarding other drivers. I don’t know his driving history and what cars he’s ran over the years.

The best drivers I’ve found use hp as icing on the cake around a track, but cut a line and groove that could be attained with half the power.

Keeping momentum is huge. Just averaging an extra 5mph around a track is worth 1-2+ seconds vs hitting 150 mph on the back straight instead of 125.

Best way to get quicker laps and grow as a driver is focusing on picking up speed at the slowest spots of the track. Bring up the lows. Same with building profits in a business. Focusing on what is already working well isn’t going to do near as much as focusing on what is dragging a business back.
 

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True sentiments regarding other drivers. I don’t know his driving history and what cars he’s ran over the years.

The best drivers I’ve found use hp as icing on the cake around a track, but cut a line and groove that could be attained with half the power.

Keeping momentum is huge. Just averaging an extra 5mph around a track is worth 1-2+ seconds vs hitting 150 mph on the back straight instead of 125.

Best way to get quicker laps and grow as a driver is focusing on picking up speed at the slowest spots of the track. Bring up the lows. Same with building profits in a business. Focusing on what is already working well isn’t going to do near as much as focusing on what is dragging a business back.
Yep. I started out in formula ford and a gen 2 viper. Since I got the miata and put around 700 laps down in it, ive become 100% better of a driver. Driving a slow car fast teaches you the right stuff. Driving a fast car teaches you bad habbits. But either way its all for fun, none of us here are going pro lol.
 

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Yep. I started out in formula ford and a gen 2 viper. Since I got the miata and put around 700 laps down in it, ive become 100% better of a driver. Driving a slow car fast teaches you the right stuff. Driving a fast car teaches you bad habbits. But either way its all for fun, none of us here are going pro lol.

My cousin is actually starting to get pretty good with racing and from what he says he’s getting attention from a few teams. I told him to try to get a factory testing position with a major manufacture like gm or ford.

Be a great job. 30 hours a week of paperwork/office crap. 10+ on track.

Basically get paid to do what you like after 5-10 years of grunt work.
 

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My cousin is actually starting to get pretty good with racing and from what he says he’s getting attention from a few teams. I told him to try to get a factory testing position with a major manufacture like gm or ford.

Be a great job. 30 hours a week of paperwork/office crap. 10+ on track.

Basically get paid to do what you like after 5-10 years of grunt work.
what's he racing? getting in with a major is like winning the lotto. One of the kids (17) at our track just swept the F4 USA championship and is still struggling with sponsorship ha
 

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what's he racing? getting in with a major is like winning the lotto. One of the kids (17) at our track just swept the F4 USA championship and is still struggling with sponsorship ha

Just old bmw’s. The teams wouldn’t amount to any real money.

I told him to go through the channels and work to get on a factory manufactures “team” ie an engineer that can test drive pre production cars as a paid employee, because it’s a lotto pull to get into pro racing as a driver.
 
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Just old bmw’s. The teams wouldn’t amount to any real money.

I told him to go through the channels and work to get on a factory manufactures “team” ie an engineer that can test drive pre production cars as a paid employee, because it’s a lotto pull to get into pro racing as a driver.
Yea a development driver would be awesome. I'd rather do that than race in the spot light.
 

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I think the new GT500 is a bad ass machine regardless of the weight. I think it will kick ass on both the track and drag strip.
 

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I think the new GT500 is a bad ass machine regardless of the weight. I think it will kick ass on both the track and drag strip.

The gtr is 3800lbs and very capable.

I don’t understand how ford got the gt500 to 4200lbs seeing that a gtr is 3800 and awd, but whatever.

I’m going to see how it performs and pass judgement then. It’s a technical tour de force
 

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... IRS has been around forever, yet aside from the 03/04, Ford put SRAs in everything until the S550 chassis. ...

Not true. The '00 Cobra R (and, I believe, all the mainline Cobras that year) came with IRS. The '03 was not the first to get IRS.

...GT350R's perform marginally in their "intended" environment (the track not Cars & Coffee). ...

How 'bout dial it back a few notches. Bad/timid driving can't be used as an indictment against the car. I'm sure those drivers don't want to wad up their cars over an HPDE where there are no worthwhile awards or cash being given to the winners. If they ball it up, it's not like they can stroll down to the local Ford dealership and pick another one up at a deep discount like they'd be able to with the ZL1 sisters. GT350Rs aren't irreplaceable, but they're not easily replaceable, either. Something to take into considering as you're throwing your shoulder out while patting yourself on the back.
 

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Point taken. Back to the GT500........

How 'bout dial it back a few notches. Bad/timid driving can't be used as an indictment against the car. I'm sure those drivers don't want to wad up their cars over an HPDE where there are no worthwhile awards or cash being given to the winners. If they ball it up, it's not like they can stroll down to the local Ford dealership and pick another one up at a deep discount like they'd be able to with the ZL1 sisters. GT350Rs aren't irreplaceable, but they're not easily replaceable, either. Something to take into considering as you're throwing your shoulder out while patting yourself on the back.
 

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