Ford will offer light weight 2020 GT500

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Car hasn't even hit the road yet and......

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Ford's $0 marketing is working.
 

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Hell yeah, that 4225 curb weight is a bad ass marketing tool!

Im not sure anyone in Ford Marketing made it out of the 3rd grade. Really amazing, actually.
 

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I can tell you this, I still own my '14 GT500 and not selling anytime soon as I feel it was just one of those cars that made a statement in the american performance car market. But 13COBRA is correct, I also owned a '16 GT350 and let me tell you the driving experience was that much superior over my '14 in many ways, but especially the suspension. I got rid of it because I felt it just needed more power for what I mainly would use it for, yea yea I almost threw a Whipple on it but knowing the new GT500 was coming sooner than later, I decided to trade the car in and not throw $15k+ or more into another car like I did my '14 that you will never get back. ($62Kish for base GT350 + $15k in power adder/supporting mods=$75kish invested)

Here we are now and the GT500 is here with great factory rated HP, and will most likely drive and handle way better than my GT350 including the fact it weighs out more. There is no denying she is a bit heavy than most would like to see, but in reality it was never going to weigh under 4k lbs unless many other lighter more expensive components were addressed, ultimately driving cost higher.
I agree in many ways with what you said, BUT that's not why I bought my 13 GT 500. I bought it because I wanted a Shelby, a big block, bad ass car that ripped it up on the street. I never plan on going to the track with it, road course or dragstrip. I drove a GT350 R at the Pocono Race track for 6 laps, the car has unbelievable handling, incredibly stable, etc, everything you would ever want in a track car !! EXCEPT it needed a supercharger, something to make it faster. So I started looking for a 13 GT500. 2k later in motor mods I'm at 702 at the wheels with 730 lbs of torque. That is what I wanted, stupid horsepower. Love the track capability from the new GT500 and GT350, just not exactly where I wanted to put my money
 

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For those that are buying the new GT500 and intend to take it road racing... you have big balls or a large bank account.
 

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For those that are buying the new GT500 and intend to take it road racing... you have big balls or a large bank account.
I’ll take that as a challenge :)
Still most interested in the street manners of this one and the potential of an 800rwhp combo with DCT/IRS and those huge brakes.
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We'll see how i feel after ripping on one of Fords demo vehicles at the track day
FWIW I think the car's gonna rip it up well. But its all the gnarly shit that can happen on a road course and beer-can a nice car quickly. Definitely look to see if anyone offers a track day insurance policy.
 

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I have no doubts it will do well on a road course. No doubts at all.

I’m sure it will be hard on consumables though....


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I paid the insurance with the idea of letting it rip at the GT350 Track Attack. I plan to do the same at the GT500 Track Attack and can't...****ing...wait.
Let me know when you're going, and I'll come with!

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Looks like it'll be summer 2020 - that'd be great Nick.


You just take it easy young man........ we cant let you go getting all crazy amped up and excited.

I need to see that fox build finished and running lol.
 

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Great history lesson. People have always done road racing in Mustangs, but most of those solid-axle cars you posted would get beaten by a stock ZL1 1LE with a competent driver. We'll see on the GT500. GT350R's perform marginally in their "intended" environment (the track not Cars & Coffee).

I agree that most people have never even considered trying the road course, but that is because they are driving straight-line-pigs that would require $1000's to not overheat or get beaten by a spec-Miata.

I'll tell you one thing, if you go around a road course, hitting 140-150 mph, you'll never drag race again.

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Seriously? You think the orginal Boss 302 was built to drag race and not for Trans Am? Was Carol Shelby out there pounding the strip in his GT350 and GT500 cars? Is that what made him famous? Was Steve McQueen ripping around in a Highland Green GT because he was all about that Mexico life?

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As for Fox Body racing... Have you not heard of AIX, Mustang x Camaro Challenge or any of the other pony car focused race series by NASA? Who do you think is buying all those Griggs Racing and Maximum Motorsports suspension parts?

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Me personally,.........I think the GT500 is going to just well on both the track and drag strip.
Looking forward to the Youtube videos of this car on the drag strip. Not really much of a track guy.
 

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Id say Fords history with the mustang was pretty split in the 60's/70's (boss 302&429), 80's?? who cares?, 90's/sn95 was definitely track focused, s197 was focused on providing to old men who liked nostalgia, the 13/14 being all of the above, and then of course gt350 on track only

Have you done autocross or road racing in a stock fox-body (drum brakes) or SN-95? You can make those cars whatever you want, but they certainly weren't built for it like some modern cars are.

Having road raced S-197 cars for years, I may be a bit biased here, but I'd say it even started as soon as the S-197 chassis came out. The 2011 +, especially 2013 + mustangs were incredibly capable road racing cars, and then take the Boss 302 on top of that. The pre 2020 GT500 was never meant to go around a corner, and anyone who thinks it was is kidding themselves, but as a whole that is a very competent chassis.

And not to just take our word for it, on any given track weekend, the top 3 cars, hands down are Miatas, porches and mustangs (of all years).

The Boss 302 is a greatly under-rated car. I've seen them put down extremely good lap times for a 5+ year old car on an older platform with a solid axle. They still aren't "fast", but I think Ford built them for the track. You may not have been to track days lately, but there aren't too many Mustangs unless it is a Ford focused event. The cars aren't competitive against the Camaro on a road course for SS vs GT or ZL1 vs 350.

I'm not bench racing.

 

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Have you done autocross or road racing in a stock fox-body (drum brakes) or SN-95? You can make those cars whatever you want, but they certainly weren't built for it like some modern cars are.

The Fox chassis was pretty bad, let's be honest. Thanks to some fairly large production numbers and with the passage of time, the aftermarket has really delivered here. At least they were light.
 

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That auto and 650 HP is like cheating and I bet the GT500 will be faster around like 4 like drivers
 

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That auto and 650 HP is like cheating and I bet the GT500 will be faster around like 4 like drivers

I'm not sure how it is cheating, but it is cheaper. I paid low 60's for my car. I had to go to a Mustang event to run into GT350's and I'm sure it will be 2022 before I see a GT500 at a Track Day or Time Trial.
 

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