New story released that a soldier that just got back from Kuwait ran towards the bullets. Grabbed some kids and got them out of there
At least 18 dead, 22 injured in El Paso mall shooting
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New story released that a soldier that just got back from Kuwait ran towards the bullets. Grabbed some kids and got them out of there
When adrenaline hits people who aren't trained and skilled in handling it, they panic and shake. I sure did the first time I had a knife pulled on me, and it scared the hell out of me. As Pro-2A as I am, I'll admit that living in a society with unqualified, uneducated, irresponsible CWP'ers does not make me feel safer. I feel safest at home, away from society.
Sitting through an 8 hour class and punching a few holes in a target isn't enough training, in my opinion. In fact, it's almost an insult to the police force, who go through far more training. In my CWP class, most had never held a firearm before. Do I feel safer because grandma has a .22 buried somewhere in her 30lb purse, or Uncle "Pork-rind" Billy is totin' a 357 at Publix? No, not really.
Just like I'm told I have to accept problems outside of my control, society has to accept that society will never be fixed unless Mother Nature comes calling. Hit the magic Feinstein button, all guns magically disappear, and people will still be killing each other at the same rate.
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Some good people were there
This Army PFC with his ccw stopped and protected a bunch of children at the mall.
Meet the hero soldier who saved children's lives during the El Paso Walmart shooting
EL PASO SHOOTING
Meet the hero soldier who saved children's lives during the El Paso Walmart shooting
Jared Keller
August 03, 2019 at 08:12 PM
VIDEO: Army Pfc. Glendon Oakley saves children lives after mass shooting at the El Paso Walmart
(CNN)
At first, Army Pfc. Glendon Oakley Jr. was completely unaware of the chaos unfolding just around the corner. Then he pulled his gun.
A 22-year-old Army automated logistics specialist assigned to the 504th Composite Supply Company, 142nd Combat Support Sustainment Battalion, 1st Armored Division Sustainment Brigade at Fort Bliss, Texas, Oakley had been shopping at a sporting goods store inside the Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso when a young child burst into the store shouting about an active shooter at the nearby Walmart.
"The guy at the register and I sort of looked at each other," Oakley told Task & Purpose in a phone interview on Saturday. "He's a little kid ... are you going to believe him?"
The threat was very real. At least 20 people were killed and dozens more wounded when a gunman opened fire at the Walmart, sending terrified bystanders fleeing through the neighboring mall.
When Oakley exited the store minutes later and headed to the neighboring Footlocker, he finally heard the sound of gunfire echoing across the mall. He immediately pulled his Glock 9mm he often touts under Texas's concealed carry laws. While he had just returned from an incident-free deployment to Kuwait, this was not his first firefight.
"That's what you do," he told Task & Purpose. "You pull your gun, you find cover, and you figure out what to do next."
Oakley had been home from Kuwait for just about four months when he found himself brandishing his Glock stuck in the Cielo Vista Mall Footlocker. A handful of employees had initially brought down the store's metal security gate, but they had decided to make a run for the mall exits. Oakley followed, an impromptu rear guard for the group.
The group quickly stumbled upon a group of a dozen children clustered in one of the mall's open play areas, screaming for their parents. Oakley says he tried to get fleeing bystanders to help, but none would stop.
"I didn't even think. I just grabbed as many kids as I could and ran five stores down to the exit," he said. "We got there and ran into a whole batch of police pointing their guns at us. I wasn't focused on myself, and I wasn't focused on my surroundings ... I was just focused on those kids."
In an interview with CNN outside the Cielo Vista Mall, Oakley was clearly shaken, the adrenaline pumping through his system. And when reached by Task & Purpose on Saturday, he said said that, despite his training, he was "scared for my life."
"I heard four kids died," he said, his voice softening. "I wish I could have gotten more kids out of there. I wish those guys who ran would have stayed ... I just think, what if that was my child? How would I want some other man to react?"
A pause: "I wish they had some sense of service."
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This Army PFC with his ccw stopped and protected a bunch of children at the mall.
Meet the hero soldier who saved children's lives during the El Paso Walmart shooting
EL PASO SHOOTING
Meet the hero soldier who saved children's lives during the El Paso Walmart shooting
Jared Keller
August 03, 2019 at 08:12 PM
VIDEO: Army Pfc. Glendon Oakley saves children lives after mass shooting at the El Paso Walmart
(CNN)
At first, Army Pfc. Glendon Oakley Jr. was completely unaware of the chaos unfolding just around the corner. Then he pulled his gun.
A 22-year-old Army automated logistics specialist assigned to the 504th Composite Supply Company, 142nd Combat Support Sustainment Battalion, 1st Armored Division Sustainment Brigade at Fort Bliss, Texas, Oakley had been shopping at a sporting goods store inside the Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso when a young child burst into the store shouting about an active shooter at the nearby Walmart.
"The guy at the register and I sort of looked at each other," Oakley told Task & Purpose in a phone interview on Saturday. "He's a little kid ... are you going to believe him?"
The threat was very real. At least 20 people were killed and dozens more wounded when a gunman opened fire at the Walmart, sending terrified bystanders fleeing through the neighboring mall.
When Oakley exited the store minutes later and headed to the neighboring Footlocker, he finally heard the sound of gunfire echoing across the mall. He immediately pulled his Glock 9mm he often touts under Texas's concealed carry laws. While he had just returned from an incident-free deployment to Kuwait, this was not his first firefight.
"That's what you do," he told Task & Purpose. "You pull your gun, you find cover, and you figure out what to do next."
Oakley had been home from Kuwait for just about four months when he found himself brandishing his Glock stuck in the Cielo Vista Mall Footlocker. A handful of employees had initially brought down the store's metal security gate, but they had decided to make a run for the mall exits. Oakley followed, an impromptu rear guard for the group.
The group quickly stumbled upon a group of a dozen children clustered in one of the mall's open play areas, screaming for their parents. Oakley says he tried to get fleeing bystanders to help, but none would stop.
"I didn't even think. I just grabbed as many kids as I could and ran five stores down to the exit," he said. "We got there and ran into a whole batch of police pointing their guns at us. I wasn't focused on myself, and I wasn't focused on my surroundings ... I was just focused on those kids."
In an interview with CNN outside the Cielo Vista Mall, Oakley was clearly shaken, the adrenaline pumping through his system. And when reached by Task & Purpose on Saturday, he said said that, despite his training, he was "scared for my life."
"I heard four kids died," he said, his voice softening. "I wish I could have gotten more kids out of there. I wish those guys who ran would have stayed ... I just think, what if that was my child? How would I want some other man to react?"
A pause: "I wish they had some sense of service."
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Key word...Soldier...he was well trained and in situations like that the training took over
Honestly,
If I was packing my XD Comp 2 - 9mm 12 rounds of fury, and I hear an AK going off at the front of the Walmart... my ass is sneaking out the back. I would only be trying to engage the guy if I had the drop on him or we were about to do some O.K. Corral shit. The magnitude of power difference between a rifle and a hand gun, especially a compact, is astronomical.
Agreed,
If you are there and have distance and especially if you have your family you're getting them out instead of engaging. You don't know how many shooters there are or if other ccw or law enforcement will mistake you as a participant... too many variables for someone without extensive training.
It sounds like he was funneling people into corners... when there is no escape you fight.
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I'd drop trou' and run at him naked for the tactical shock-value advantage.
Seriously though, I think most CC'ers daydream about being the hero at the bank, but all it takes is one adrenaline-dumping incident to get a heaping dose of reality. I had to sweep my last house twice when I suspected someone broke in (guy ran out the back door as I was going down the stairs), and swept our yard once when someone was breaking into my garage here last year. Different when you have the upper-hand. But being caught in a surprise in public? No thanks, I'll admit I'm not prepared nor qualified.
And anyone who unironically uses the word "tactical" shouldn't be allowed to CC.
Lol
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Well unless they train them different now then when I was in, 71, being a logistics specialist he got a few weeks in basic on the rifle and zip on handgun.
Not only the power difference but the distance advantage. I agree I'd only engage a shooter if I had him dead to rights or I had no choice.
He will be real popular in prison. Between the Mexican Mafia and Texas Syndicate he wont last long. That’s assuming he last past county.
I say hang him off the tallest tree in town and leave him there as a warning to the rest. Broadcast it on national TV as a warning that we will not be standing for this crap
I say hang him off the tallest tree in town and leave him there as a warning to the rest. Broadcast it on national TV as a warning that we will not be standing for this crap
And antifa plans on coming to El Paso. Open Carry Texas plans to meet them. My bet is antifa doesn't show up.
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Beto already blaming the shooting on Trump.
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