It's a Whole New World | 2020 Shelby GT500 | Meanest Snake Yet | How Fast Is It?

It's a Whole New World | 2020 Shelby GT500 | Meanest Snake Yet | How Fast Is It?

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It's been a long time coming. For over 5 years the SVTP Community has been eagerly awaiting the arrival of a new Shelby GT500 Mustang. We've been speculating what the car might be, and finally we know. On paper, the car looks to be an absolute Monster. She is going to arrive this spring and will be packing a 2650 Eaton TVS Supercharged Cross-Plane-Crank 5.2L V8 cranking out well over 700HP. Ford has told us the engine will come equipped stronger forged connecting rods than those found in the GT350 Mustang; which we've seen churn out ridiculous numbers on a stock bottom-end.


However, the biggest change the SVT faithful will have to become accustomed to is the loss of rowing their own gears. The GT500's 7-Speed Tremec Dual-Clutch Transmission is state of the art piece than is capable of shifting faster than you'll ever be able to. I can't say I'm all that happy about losing the clutch pedal, but I can't deny the performance advantage of the DCT. Simply put, it makes the car much faster than a shift. I'm talking shifts in as little as 100 milliseconds. You know you have a rough life when your biggest gripe about a feature of a car is something that makes it measurably better.

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But just how good is it? For has told us that it runs mid-3 second 0-60 times and sub-11 seconds in the quarter. That is blisteringly fast for a factory Pony Car. However, I happened to poke around a big and managed to coax some actual concrete numbers from some Ford Insiders. How does sub-3.5 second 0-60MPH times sound? From what I've been told, test drivers have been able to run faster than 3.5 seconds but traction becomes an issue. With all the fancy electronic driver aids most owners will be ticking off times around 3.5 seconds.

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The real news is in the Quarter-Mile times. I've been told Ford Performance Engineers have run 10.80s with traps over 133MPH. While those time are insanely impressive for a car that it perfectly happy running around VIR and out cornering every Mustang that came before it (try that in your Dodge Demon), I'm told that the guys at Ford Performance are still tweeking things. I don't have a final HP number to share, tuning is still taking place, but it looks like it's going to be in the 750HP range. The last report I got was that the current test cars are producing numbers in the 740s.

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As for the chassis and suspension dynamics, I'm going to defer to SVTP's resident S550 GT500 sleuth @Tob for his take on things:


Chassis


The big question is weight and until Ford leads us out of the dark it remains an unknown. Suffice it to say, Ford had their work cut out for them. Doesn't look as though DSSV's will make an appearance but rather the latest and greatest MagneRide technology does instead. Further refined beyond that of the GT350 and no doubt calibrated to meet most every demand within the spectrum of modes available that dictate how the driver wishes them to perform. The result of which is the "highest-ever lateral acceleration from a Mustang." Can't argue with that.

Suspension geometry has once again been revised. The front knuckles are now referred to as being "high trail" units for better steering response. The steering rack has been improved in kind to match. Lighter weight coil springs (both front and rear) replace previous designs. Michelin tires are Ford spec, in either Pilot Sport 4S or Pilot Sport Cup2's.

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Brakes are once again being sourced from Brembo. The GT500 will use a six piston caliper (even larger than that of the GT350) with the largest of any domestic sports coupe, two-piece, 16.5" diameter rotors up front (no longer cross drilled) and 14.5" rotors out back. Think about it - these rotors are larger than wheels of only a few short years ago. And with an additional 30% increase in thermal mass up front, wheel choice becomes more important than ever. Flow formed 20" diameter wheels are standard with nothing less than 20" carbon fiber wheels being available on the optional "Carbon Fiber Track Pack."

After a near 6 year absence Ford will once again be using a carbon fiber driveshaft behind the blown 5.2L CPC beast. A CF shaft ensures a smooth operating driveline as well as increased potential when it comes to handle typical drag-style shock loading as well as spinning to insane rpms when the car is topped out in high gear. Hallelujah!

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Adjustable strut top mounts will be available on the "Handling Package" (one would assume the CF Track Package as well) that will most likely ease track side camber adjustment. Clearly, Ford has been listening but more importantly they took action and have implemented instead of punting.


Managing the Air


You need to have your eyes examined if you can't see the massively ventilated hood and louvers the GT500 will now come with. But this car has far more in store when it comes to controlling how air will move in, through, up, over, and around. The upper and lower front grille opening has "50 percent more cooling pack airflow" than that of the GT350. The fenders on the GT500 are wider than previous and provide an aesthetic match to the rear.

The standard rear spoiler is new and the rear diffuser takes advantage of an updated composite material. Vehicle aero was developed and optimized in Ford's wind tunnel in North Carolina. There they refined the 31"x28" hood louver such that removing the aluminum "rain tray" will increase air extraction and downforce. No downforce data has been provided yet on the optional GT4 inspired rear wing but expect numbers we haven't seen previously on a production pony car from Ford.

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The Ford patented splitters make their debut as well. An interesting deviation from the typical canard-style hardware we have seen for years now on cars that are looking to stay glued to the track at speed.

There's so much more. Finally, after all this time we have what looks to be something to study, argue, and study some more. Going to be a long winter and spring but just knowing that the car will happen at all is a relief given how volatile the industry has become.

Thanks Ford for pleasantly surprising. This car looks to be a really good one.

All I can say is Wow, this car looks to be something special. It's breaking norms and raising the bar on what buyers can expect from a factory Mustang. I have absolutely no doubt that the aftermarket will have these cars running 9's with not much more than a pulley and tune. I know for a fact that companies like HP-Tuners and Whipple Superchargers are already gearing up for these cars to hit the streets. I'm calling it now, Lethal Performance will have a 2020 GT500 cranking out over 1,000 HP with a 3.0L Whipple blower on a stock engine and Rebecca Starkey will be out running 8's in one before you'll know what hit you. This Shelby GT500 from Ford Performance is a whole new world, and I hope you're ready to explore.
 
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ok bruh...

Pretty sad when a Subaru that costs half the price blows the doors off a GT350 at 5000 feet or more above sea level, both in straight line and road course. Take a hot summer day at 5500 feet and your density altitude will approach 9000 feet.

There is no place for an N/A car in that price range.
 
A couple of thoughts:

1. I like it. It will be an incredible car. It looks great and will be the most powerful (HP) Mustang ever produced that is street legal.

2. I never liked silver on Cobras/Mustangs, but Good God, the silver one in the photos looks incredible! WOW!

3. Did anyone else notice in the brochure you can get one with rear-seat delete?

4. Whoever complained about the reveal and stated that Ford needs real car guys at the top because that reveal was blah doesn't understand that real car guys won't be able to afford the car. The reveal lacked technical info because most of the people who will be able to afford the car don't care about HP and TQ numbers...they just want to get theirs and store it away like idiots.

5. With ADM, I'm guessing this is a $100K car. LOL

6. HP/TQ numbers would have been nice, but 0 to 60 times and quarter mile times don't mean much until you get drivers behind the wheel and on the course/at the track to see what the car can do in real life.

7. Funny how Redfire and Silver were my least favorite colors (other than Zinc Yellow) for the Terminators and now similar colors for the new GT500 have me gazing longingly at the 500's pics. LOL
 
well said jpro

The biggest problem here is price... My terminator is probably the most impractical thing I have ever owned... Its fun to drive on a nice sunny day or maybe bring to the track for a little fun. I have about 35K invested in it.... I just can't imagine wrapping upwards of 100K in something that is that impractical. Its just not a middle class car anymore. Its trying to compete with upper class income vehicles. If I'm going to spend that kind of money... I'm sorry, Its not going to be on a mustang. Lets also compare a terminator here from a cost perspective... I have 35K invested, I can run low 11's all day long granny shifting... IF i put another 65K into my terminator, It would be an easy 9 second car, handle like a dream and have a nice new paint job maybe even some interior upgrades that rival what you find in a new car.
 
I wanna see it Jake!
Hopefully we will see a new Tool album by the time this 500 is released.

this^

given how long its taken ford to get off their ass and compete with every other manufacturer out there in this performance range... GT350 barely competed with the mid level trim Camaro and challenger
 
Don’t pre-order, don’t pay MSRP... let them sit on the lots and come down in price. Your just encouraging dealers to over charge an already over priced car when you pre-order.

There is plenty of dealers out there that don't gouge their customers. You may have to do so calling but it isn't hard to find a dealer that'll order you one at MSRP.

Lol By all means buy a redeye. It's all good until you want to turn. There is a big black mark on a wall under a bridge where a hell cat tried a sharp turn at speed.
Listen I'm not going to say the Redeye is road course car but it does pull almost 1g on Car & Drivers Skidpad. Having said that I'll give up some road course prowess for a crap ton more comfort. Now having said that 99.99% of these GT500's will never turn a wheel on a track that isn't straight.

Any schlep can slap a 2650 Roots blower on a Coyote and make big power. What's special about this car, outside of the DCT which a lot of people seem to be complaining about?
 
There is plenty of dealers out there that don't gouge their customers. You may have to do so calling but it isn't hard to find a dealer that'll order you one at MSRP.


Listen I'm not going to say the Redeye is road course car but it does pull almost 1g on Car & Drivers Skidpad. Having said that I'll give up some road course prowess for a crap ton more comfort. Now having said that 99.99% of these GT500's will never turn a wheel on a track that isn't straight.

Any schlep can slap a 2650 Roots blower on a Coyote and make big power. What's special about this car, outside of the DCT which a lot of people seem to be complaining about?

Well considering brakes, areo, and suspension setup...I guess nothing ?? LOL. If this car has the same performance of a GT350 around a track and the power to hit the 1/4 in 10secs...STOCK.....It's a step in the right direction. The DCT will be a great help. Just like the A10 power the 5.0's to great time now at the strip.

At the end of the day you can make ANY car faster. Its the supporting gear that makes a car special. If this GT500 holds to what is mentioned, it will be very special, and probably a whipple away from running low 9's or 8's. That and it will be able to turn. I would say it will easily stay with or whoop a ZL1 LE. Its a great time to be a enthusiast.
 
Any schlep can slap a 2650 Roots blower on a Coyote and make big power. What's special about this car, outside of the DCT which a lot of people seem to be complaining about?

well said... however the internals of a coyote won't last long at that power range. However in total defense of this statement any schlep (myself included) can slap a whipple on a terminator without even touching the internals and make huge power safely.

Where this car will definitely deliver is the transmission I think. I just know if I had an automatic with more gears closer together I could easily run low 10's with my terminator. You can keep the RPM's in a sweet spot all the way up to 130+mph. This is where many of these newer cars like the GTR have a huge advantage and make surprising numbers with as little as 500-ish HP.
 
well said jpro

The biggest problem here is price... My terminator is probably the most impractical thing I have ever owned... Its fun to drive on a nice sunny day or maybe bring to the track for a little fun. I have about 35K invested in it.... I just can't imagine wrapping upwards of 100K in something that is that impractical. Its just not a middle class car anymore. Its trying to compete with upper class income vehicles. If I'm going to spend that kind of money... I'm sorry, Its not going to be on a mustang. Lets also compare a terminator here from a cost perspective... I have 35K invested, I can run low 11's all day long granny shifting... IF i put another 65K into my terminator, It would be an easy 9 second car, handle like a dream and have a nice new paint job maybe even some interior upgrades that rival what you find in a new car.

Wtf are you talking about? Definitely have a troll here.
 
No worries, I have a "relationship" with my dealer. Haven't paid ADM on my Raptors, GT500s, or 350s........EVER.
This isn't my first rodeo Chip.
Correct. They can be had for msrp. However, I don’t understand the idea of bashing someone if they wanna pay adm. If willing to pay adm, that person obviously has the money to be able to do such. Much like paying over market for a house. If you want it and can afford it, who cares?
 

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