If you commit suicide I will beat the hell out of you. Do you really want to play that game?
I don't care if your carcase is in a casket, I will invert your face.
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Why has suicide become such a viable option?
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I don't care if your carcase is in a casket, I will invert your face.
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Exactly.
From a young age we start programming our minds ourselves. We learn how to deal with things by experiencing them and learning then developing a coping mechanism. Years ago parents went on a rampage to shield their children against anything that might hurt their feelings, protecting them from society (everyone gets a trophy B.S.), and now this thought is biting society in the ass.
I grew up in a family that was raised on a farm and in the city. I find it amazing how sheltered city people are compared to the farm raised folk. A 10 year old driving a tractor!!!???? OMFG!!
City Folk: The parents should be tossed in jail for child abuse!! Those POOR CHILDREN!!! AAhhhhh...!
Farm Folk: Pull your head out and get to work! We have hay to bale and get in the barn before it rains. And don't forget to move the cows to the next pasture before you come in.
How many people have had to put down an animal that was in distress?
This day and age you get jailed for doing it if you are caught. I was 14 when I did it the first time.
KS
Like some have mentioned, I too believe some big contributor's are social media and technology. I recently have taken a break on Facebook, it's really too much some days. Always getting caught up on the little things on there. I feel happier actually and may eventually stay off there for good.
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Simple, straight to the point, accurate !!!
That is how some "Talks" go sometimes, you and I both know. I'm simply saying that I can empathize with both sides of the situation and it's very hard to describe the mindset to people that haven't experienced such thoughts. I hope I didn't word that poorly and give the wrong impression.
There is a lot of truth to that, but I think that's mainly on the anxiety-driven side. There are many factors that contribute to suicidal thoughts and depression. It stems from different pain points. I think you're spot on when it comes to anxiety- it's like throwing people into the middle of the ocean after being shown one video on how to swim. People become overwhelmed, then withdraw, and that vicious cycle begins.
Many people who experience suicidal thoughts are not generally anxiety-ridden. For them, life lost its color, flavor, etc. Imagine being in a group of people eating cake, but it tastes bitter to you and nobody else. These can be totally functional people with stable lives. Complacency becomes lethargy and before you know it, they have no enjoyment in life and no desire to continue it.
Many many variables and root causes. Unfortunately there is no magic solution to it.
I always post this comic up in threads on this topic:
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It's a real toxin in the brain, perhaps a chemical imbalance.
My wife struggles with anxiety and is she is fine 99% of the time. She is the most level headed person I know, until an anxiety attack happens. She is a completely different person, there is no reasoning with her when these attacks happen. She loves life, loves both sides of our family and is a wonderful teacher who actually loves seeing her students everyday. She has the will power to either come get me or call her mom or sister (who is a counselor). My wife will never show signs of anxiety in public or around my side of the family, ever.
Generally she has one attack a year that is suicidal, unfortunately. We had a fight about something, I honestly cannot remember what. For her, she let her anxiety build up, so this fight set her off. Came out of the bathroom, told me she thought about ending her life with a pair of scissors. This completely destroyed me and her at the moment.
While I don't have anxiety, so I don't fully understand what's going on. My wife knows suicide is wrong, she'll tell you it's wrong. She doesn't want to commit suicide, however when this chemical imbalance hits, she isn't the same person.
We have talked it out, we talk often. Counseling only seems to make this worst for her and she doesn't want to do medicine.
I never knew what it was like until I had to deal with my wife. I was always the person who said "suicide is for cowards" man was I ignorant. You just never know the demons someone struggles with.
My wife struggles with anxiety and is she is fine 99% of the time. She is the most level headed person I know, until an anxiety attack happens. She is a completely different person, there is no reasoning with her when these attacks happen. She loves life, loves both sides of our family and is a wonderful teacher who actually loves seeing her students everyday. She has the will power to either come get me or call her mom or sister (who is a counselor). My wife will never show signs of anxiety in public or around my side of the family, ever.
Generally she has one attack a year that is suicidal, unfortunately. We had a fight about something, I honestly cannot remember what. For her, she let her anxiety build up, so this fight set her off. Came out of the bathroom, told me she thought about ending her life with a pair of scissors. This completely destroyed me and her at the moment.
While I don't have anxiety, so I don't fully understand what's going on. My wife knows suicide is wrong, she'll tell you it's wrong. She doesn't want to commit suicide, however when this chemical imbalance hits, she isn't the same person.
We have talked it out, we talk often. Counseling only seems to make this worst for her and she doesn't want to do medicine.
I never knew what it was like until I had to deal with my wife. I was always the person who said "suicide is for cowards" man was I ignorant. You just never know the demons someone struggles with.
You're a good man for standing by her and through it.
Two kinds of people : those that have experienced depression closely and understand it, and those who have NOT. It’s very obvious who is who.
Unfortunately you never know what someone else is going through until you walked a mile in their shoes.
I cut Facebook off last year cause I hated the drama my brother posted on it and seeing his kids post anything and everything made me shudder. I blame the fact that parents spend more time on Social media and less time parenting their kids than what I grew up with (age 37). Now its all about putting everything online for everyone to see and kids are not equipped to handle the trash that comes out of some people.
Ive seen too many articles of young kids killing themselves over crap posted online. Granted some of it was pretty bad like telling the kid to kill themselves.
I honestly think society had gotten to the point that we a just ****ed up as people. Anything and everything is accessible and any desire can be fulfilled at the drop of a hat and that has really caused people to not give a crap.
I cut Facebook off last year cause I hated the drama my brother posted on it and seeing his kids post anything and everything made me shudder. I blame the fact that parents spend more time on Social media and less time parenting their kids than what I grew up with (age 37). Now its all about putting everything online for everyone to see and kids are not equipped to handle the trash that comes out of some people.
Ive seen too many articles of young kids killing themselves over crap posted online. Granted some of it was pretty bad like telling the kid to kill themselves.
I honestly think society had gotten to the point that we a just ****ed up as people. Anything and everything is accessible and any desire can be fulfilled at the drop of a hat and that has really caused people to not give a crap.
I sometimes wonder how much religion, and the belief of an afterlife, plays into it. I know most religions frown upon it and indicate that there are repercussions for it in "heaven", but if they are that bad off in life maybe they believe the next life couldn't possibly be worse (even with the punishment for taking their own life).
I hit a real deep low when my father passed away. I've always been a happy for lucky kinda guy, but I'm just not the same anymore and it's been nearly a year.
My mother is taking it even worse. She is suffering major grieving depression. She cant do her own bills anymore, cant even read an analog clock. Against our best wishes, my sister and I brought her to the Dr and they put her on some antidepressants. They are actually helping her it seems. We have a few more weeks before her meds take full effect to get a better idea of how she will be.
My father suffered from Dementia and my sister and I were worried my mom may be dealing with the same thing, but it seems it's the grieving.
My mother is taking it even worse. She is suffering major grieving depression. She cant do her own bills anymore, cant even read an analog clock. Against our best wishes, my sister and I brought her to the Dr and they put her on some antidepressants. They are actually helping her it seems. We have a few more weeks before her meds take full effect to get a better idea of how she will be.
My father suffered from Dementia and my sister and I were worried my mom may be dealing with the same thing, but it seems it's the grieving.
I'm working through those issues from my father passing last yr., prolonged depression as opposed to acute grief that resolves itself in the short term. What helps me the most is remembering how he'd want me to live, not anxious & depressed but grabbing life by the balls and having a blast. He'd probably give me a Joey Diaz style motivational speech (with a giant smile the entire time).
I deleted my FB page a few years ago- it just felt so... fake. I'd get on there and it was nothing but smiling faces and "oh look at me, I haven't worked a single day in my whole life, what with a silver spoon up my ass and all, but I'm on my 8th vacation this year! Life is good! LOL! =D" I got sick of it, deleted it, and that stress was instantly gone. That need for a sense of self-validation was gone, and I felt free for a while.
Social media is all about shaping how you want the world to see you- filtered images that create a false sense of reality for the addicts. The internet is flooded with narcissists marketing and flaunting their "perfect little lives," leaving the rest questioning if that's really how life is for some.
I counsel many people with anxiety and panic. My daughter suffers from it. I have also been there. It is not an easy life.
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I don’t think people actually concentrate on the finality of suicide. I think they know they will die, but fail to contemplate that there will be nothing.
I read somewhere that something like 10 people have survived jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge. Of those 10, 9 said after they immediately regretted it as soon as they let go.
I read somewhere that something like 10 people have survived jumping from the Golden Gate Bridge. Of those 10, 9 said after they immediately regretted it as soon as they let go.
Some do, some don't. Some see it no differently than collapsing asleep on the couch after a long, draining day of work- again, all about relief. And some do it for attention because nothing else worked (often with younger individuals).
Methods do play a huge part in regrets. Actions such as jumping, cutting, poisoning, etc, leave time for the mind to recognize a threat and sort of "hard restart" to kick in the natural self-preservation instinct. The methods with highest "success" rates are ones where there is no time for a second thought. Interestingly enough, men tend to opt for those methods while women opt for methods that aren't likely to succeed and lead to permanent damage/disfigurement. It's honestly quite sad to think about and it tests my faith at times.
Have you ever gotten so angry that you temporarily lost control? Vision goes red, adrenaline hits, pins and needles? When your mind is in a panic, instincts kick in and logic goes out the window. That's a dangerous place to be for anyone with suicidal thoughts because it's like putting a brick on the gas pedal.
I'm trying to be careful because there are things I would like to share if it would help others, but they are private details from friends and my own experiences and I promised I would keep them confidential.
Life lost its flavor years ago for me. Little to no enjoyment left outside the time I spend with my daughter. Frankly, I think it's a much more common scenario than people would believe. But, I don't think it's a reason to commit suicide. I think there's likely more going on than just that.
It's difficult to understand what's going on in the mind of someone considering suicide.
Social media is the cancerous amplifier to modern society. Parents creating weak and coddled youth are leading to weaker people. Combine all that with people already predispositioned to have mental disorders and you just dropped a grenade in the middle of everything.
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