CJ manifold and E85, who has most NA power?

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I'm sure some have seen this:

522rwhp with a ported CJ manifold, monoblade and CAI on E85. Stock exhaust though.
Wondering what this combo would do with full exhaust and possibly cams?
600rwhp NA?
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seems kinda weak for a GT350 TBH, It only like 50 more HP then a GT with the same setup
 

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Finally any details on how they made it fit

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seems kinda weak for a GT350 TBH, It only like 50 more HP then a GT with the same setup

Not really apples/apples.

Firstly, most of the guys who are running the Cobra Jet or the GT350 intake on a coyote are revving it higher than factory/spec warranty. I'm sure the disparity would be even greater if you rev'd a 350 nearly 1k rpm beyond what Ford recommends.

Secondly, 50 REAR wheel horsepower isn't exactly a small difference. When you consider that the only real differentiator between the two motors (in terms of power output) is the extra 13 cubic inches of displacement. The flat plane allows the motor to rev quicker and the firing order allows a smoother air pump effect, but once you swap the intakes and throttle body out, the differences between the two motors is mainly cubes and rev limit.
 

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I'm gonna pull the trigger on this and hopefully bust 550 wheel

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Just wanted to see some activity in here, I'd figured somebody would have done a nasty NA build by now.
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I just picked up bnib cj manifold frpp monoblade and frpp intake for 800

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That is a very good deal! Are people now able to tune the monoblade for part throttle driveability reliably? Shaun had cautioned me against running the monoblade with a CJ for track work. So I bought the VMP instead.
 
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That is a very good deal! Are people now able to tune the monoblade for part throttle driveability reliably? Shaun had cautioned me against running the monoblade with a CJ for track work. So I bought the VMP instead.
I'm gonna try the monoblade 1st since I never drivr the car if tuning is an issue ill pick up a vmp

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800 is a nice start, a lot cheaper than i thought it would be. wonder whats involved in dropping the motor to get the hood clearance. is that gonna cause an issue with longtube clearance to the ground? i am asssuming you will run lt's to get to 550rwhp
 

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Strange times we live in where one would call 522rwhp from a $60k, 5.2L production vehicle with an intake swap "kinda weak":)
My reference was that its kinda weak in comparison to a car (11-17 5.0 GT) that cost half as much (base model) with the same intake swap/tuning. Dont get me wrong I love the GT350s just always disappointed at the output.
 

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800 is a nice start, a lot cheaper than i thought it would be. wonder whats involved in dropping the motor to get the hood clearance. is that gonna cause an issue with longtube clearance to the ground? i am asssuming you will run lt's to get to 550rwhp
Yes i will have to drop the engine currently using American racing headers and there is plenty of room

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I know what you meant, but just have to put this into perspective. That car make more power then a 5.4L, blown 2011 GT500 did stock. Even the max torque is only down about 30-40 over a typical 2010-12 GT500 dyno pull. Yes I know there is a lot more power under the curve, but still it's pretty crazy to think were things have gone in only a few years.
 

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My reference was that its kinda weak in comparison to a car (11-17 5.0 GT) that cost half as much (base model) with the same intake swap/tuning. Dont get me wrong I love the GT350s just always disappointed at the output.

Again, 50 rwhp isn't exactly trivial and considering all the money you'd have to dump into the "base model" to get it up to the 350 in terms of brakes, wheels, tires, body kit, seats, transmission, shifter, suspension, trans, oil and diff coolers, gauges, exhaust, etc.

If all that mattered was the engine output, then yeah, it seems like the two cars aren't that far apart, except for 50 rwhp, which again, isn't exactly small and again, the 5.0 is having to spin higher than factory redline just to reduce it to that gap.
 

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With good gains of 350 intake on '18gt, I've been wondering who was going to try the reversal, an '18 gt intake on a 350 to gain some torque...since that seemed to be one knock of the 5.2 flat plane to some. Crazy this thing is same hp, NA , as when my foxbody was 302 with bolt ons and single turbo at 11psi.
 

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With good gains of 350 intake on '18gt, I've been wondering who was going to try the reversal, an '18 gt intake on a 350 to gain some torque...since that seemed to be one knock of the 5.2 flat plane to some. Crazy this thing is same hp, NA , as when my foxbody was 302 with bolt ons and single turbo at 11psi.

They're now fielding the first "variable compression" engines. I'd imagine if e cars don't overrun the whole affair that we might see variable displacement, variable compression, variable cam timing, variable valve lift and duration engines with variable cylinder activation.

All that flexibility to wring out every ounce of power for virtually any condition while still maintaining driveability and fuel economy.

Now if they could just put the ****ing oil filter in a sensible location and get rid of the 1920's tech hood prop rod, that would be something. My 2007 4Runner had hood struts.
 

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