2015 short block?

[vortecd]

Starting to think that you don't understand the difference between a short block and a block. The link that you just provided is for an 11 to 14 GT Mustang and it is a short block with Manley and Mahle components called the Alluminator; however, they are now using the block from a 15 GT. You can still get the Alluminator short block for your 2011-2014 GT ( which u proved by the link u provided) which is A different part then the stock 2015 shortblock that comes with a new 2015 GT which is not as strong as the Alluminator. Ugh
I don't understand the point in trying to point out that you can't get the 11 to 14 block anymore. Who cares.

The point is you can't get a '14 shortblock so people are asking if a '15 will work. This thread is to answer questions what is needed to, if possible, to put a production '15 shortblock or longblock in a 11-14 mustang. With the angle of the filter there were questions if it would fit. Seems that question has been answered since it has been done. As far as the longblock goes do you just need to change the cams? Again question that people are asking and hoping someone has answers

Question like this are going to keep coming up so any if not all answer will help in the future

I was all set to buy the Aluminator shortblock at Christmas and found out they were gone. At that time with going to the new block and different filter angle I didn't know if it would go in my car. That is why we need a thread to answer what is needed

 

[vortecd]

Why would want to put a 2015 stock shortblock into year 2011–2014 GT when the Alluminator shortblock is much stronger?

Cost. Most people will not build a 800+ car so if the production '15 shortblock works they won't max it out

 

[466roller]

Yes you can put a complete '15 motor or longblock in an 11-14. You would need to change the cams and phasers to 11-14 design. This is why it's a good option for those that already have an 11-14 motor

 

[Flcracker]

What is the price difference between a 2015 stock GT shortblock and the 2011 -2014 Alluminator short block?

 

[Brad59]

I think the 15 short block was about 2 grand from another thread on here. The aluminator in the link above was about 6700 i think. Buying the 15 short block and throwing a set of forged pistons in it doesn't seem like a bad idea. They are both 15 blocks now so just a different oil filter setup and plug a hole on the block from what I understand. And transfer everything over from your 11-14.

 

[Flcracker]

I think the 15 short block was about 2 grand from another thread on here. The aluminator in the link above was about 6700 i think. Buying the 15 short block and throwing a set of forged pistons in it doesn't seem like a bad idea. They are both 15 blocks now so just a different oil filter setup and plug a hole on the block from what I understand. And transfer everything over from your 11-14.[/QUOT

Which rods are in the 15?

 

[vortecd]

The Aluminator shortblock could be bought for under $4500 on sale from a few places at the end of the year, maybe again this year. The '15 production shortblock looks to be around $2000 but there is a $500 core charge. More attention to detail with the Aluminator and you get forged pistons and billet oil pump gears. Something to think about

 

[Flcracker]

It's a no-brainer.

 

[vortecd]

this is a quote from MMR:

"When the 15 engine is used in a 11-14 the 3rd oil hole on the side of the block must be plugged (they can be drilled and tapped for a NPT plug"

I haven't seen any pictures of a '15 block so I'm not sure what this 3rd hole is

 

[vortecd]

here is a link to the '15 shortblock:

http://www.partsmaven.com/ford/ford...im/5-0l-v8-gas-engine/engine-cat/oil-pan-scat

Also check out the price of the heads at the bottom of the link. $1000 for both but there is a $500 core charge. Still $1500 for '15 heads

 

[vortecd]

break down of parts and engines

http://www.tascaparts.com/auto-part...engine-cat/engine-scat/?part_number=fr3z6010a

 

[Brad59]

I think the 15 short block was about 2 grand from another thread on here. The aluminator in the link above was about 6700 i think. Buying the 15 short block and throwing a set of forged pistons in it doesn't seem like a bad idea. They are both 15 blocks now so just a different oil filter setup and plug a hole on the block from what I understand. And transfer everything over from your 11-14.[/QUOT

Which rods are in the 15?

I think they are the same rods that came in the boss. Could be wrong though. I didn't realize the aluminator could be had for 4500 on sale. That would be a deal too.

 

[zinc03svt]

People have made 900 plus whp on the stock 15 plus pistons (motor) btw. I know personally a twin turbo car that has a lot of passes still on stock motor. For someone looking for 700-800 whp on a 11-14 car the 15 short block is way to go.

 

[cjd223]

Looks like that is the way I am going.

 

[Flcracker]

People have made 900 plus whp on the stock 15 plus pistons (motor) btw. I know personally a twin turbo car that has a lot of passes still on stock motor. For someone looking for 700-800 whp on a 11-14 car the 15 short block is way to go.

If you push over 800 Whp I think you have an expensive time bomb on your hands. I would save and pay extra for peace of mind if it's not your daily, personally.

 

[Nomadic]

So for 2k - 2015 short block and then reusing my stock heads + cams - and the most I'd have to do is plug an oil hole galley?

 

[MRSUPRA]

The 11-14 stock short block has made over 1000rwhp. It won't last at any where near those power levels, and neither will the 15 short block. If you're going through the trouble of swapping engines, put in a short block with real forged pistons and rods that will handle boost for the long run.

 

[cjd223]

The 11-14 stock short block has made over 1000rwhp. It won't last at any where near those power levels, and neither will the 15 short block. If you're going through the trouble of swapping engines, put in a short block with real forged pistons and rods that will handle boost for the long run.

I will be happy at 725-750whp. Can't afford the high $$$ short blocks.

 

[Flcracker]

The 11-14 stock short block has made over 1000rwhp. It won't last at any where near those power levels, and neither will the 15 short block. If you're going through the trouble of swapping engines, put in a short block with real forged pistons and rods that will handle boost for the long run.

Well said. If it's not your daily driver then be patient and save up. Using your block MPR will add Manley rods and Pistons including labor for 3,295 which is good for 900 Whp all day if you should ever want it. Oh and you most likely will eventually want it and wish you had built it stronger.

 

[Brad59]

I agree. I'm just thinking for the guy that wants to keep power at 700 or so or has grenaded his short block this is a pretty good option.