I need some questions answered with the Itunes Store and an Iphone 6.

[wvmystichrome]

Just wondering with all the gurus in here on electronics if someone can answer me the following.

First a little background. Daughter is 14. Fellow whom is more than infatuated with her will be 18 in July. He will not leave her alone. The school they go to the principal has warned him of an impending restraining order if he so much as contacts her during school hours. Our problem is they sneak and do it through their phones. He has already once man handled my wife to the point as I was going to take him out but my wife stopped me. He has no respect for anyone but the Johnson in his pants. He thinks he is a player and a ladies man. He reminds me of the situation in the northeast last year where the senior planned to deflower a freshman and successfully did so. But he also got 10 years in the pen for statutory rape, if I recall correctly. This really fits what is going on in our lives.

My question is. Is there a way that once an application in the ITunes store is deleted and then a person deletes it off their phone can it be reinstalled. When I go to delete Snap Chat from the ITunes store it says it will only delete from the ITunes store but not on any Apple product it is installed on. What her mom and I think is happening is she is installing Snap Chat on her phone and then when we ask to review her phone, which is quite often, she presses a few keys before handing it to us. Upon review there is no Snap Chat App. I tried to restrict her installing and deleting Apps on her phone but she went ballistic saying she needed to be able to install and delete certain Apps for use at school.

So what I am wanting to figure out is if I delete the app from the ITunes store and she deletes it off the phone will she be able to reinstall if it knows she has had it on there before and it is not available in the store any more. I cannot find an answer to this question.

Thanks for the long drawn out explanation but this boy has been a pain in our side since October and no way to get rid of him without involving his mother (KY law even though we live in WV) who is a Psycho in her own rights.

 

[GloomySVT]

Why is your daughter contacting him back? :dw: Also, take away the phone and give her a flip phone. Problem solved. A 14 year old doesn't need an Iphone 6.

 

[wvmystichrome]

Why is your daughter contacting him back? :dw: Also, take away the phone and give her a flip phone. Problem solved. A 14 year old doesn't need an Iphone 6.

I agree with you and we have tried that. But the teachers in her high school give them assignments in class to do with their smartphones. We took it from her one day and she ended up not being able to do her assignment. We talked to the principal about it and he said she would have to double up with a partner and share their phone.

Why is she contacting him back. Be cause he is a smooth talking person who has convinced her we are old and dumb and she does not have to listen to us.

 

[Dobedare]

Why is your daughter contacting him back? :dw: Also, take away the phone and give her a flip phone. Problem solved. A 14 year old doesn't need an Iphone 6.

+1

The guy could also be facing charges for child enticement and statuary rape.

 

[Drive XR7]

Change the Apple ID password that's being used for that phone and update your settings to require password for any app installation.

 

[wvmystichrome]

+1

The guy could also be facing charges for child enticement and statuary rape.

He has been told this to his face. He doesn't think it could happen to him. That's the least of his worries. His dad has been in prison for over 8 years now and for what no one knows or they will not say. He might be joining him real soon if he does not back off.

Change the Apple ID password that's being used for that phone and update your settings to require password for any app installation.

Thanks. I had not thought about that. I will try this.

 

[DSG2003Mach1]

ya I dont buy that they are constantly needing to install new apps for school work. If nothing else get a list of the apps from the school, make sure theyre there and change the password as mentioned

 

[Drive XR7]

Also, Settings > Touch ID & Password. Uncheck iTunes and App Store. You want her to be able to use her thumbprint to unlock the phone but App Store should require the Apple ID password.

 

[BrunotheBoxer]

Break his ****n legs. Trust me on this one. The longer you allow this the worse it will get. Seriously do it because if someone touched my wife I'd be going to jail.

 

[madscotsman]

Why weren't charges pressed when he "man handled" your wife? He would have been leaving on a stretcher if he touched my wife. Sounds like she has some sort of app installed that hides selective apps. If it were me and I wanted to stay out of prison, she would get a tracphone from Walmart and would be sharing a Pune at school for her class work.

 

[CobraBob]

Good phone limit advice in the above posts.

I would call the school and ask questions about the "need" for a smart phone for school required apps. I can't buy that every kid in her class has a smart phone. If I'm wrong, and they do (or one is provided), then you need to take some bigger steps to isolate these two. This situation is just plain BAD. Instill in her that as long as she is in YOUR house, it's YOUR rules. She needs to respect/honor both you and her mom. And that means abiding by the rules you both lay down. She might dislike the rules and tough love, but in a few years she will thank you. I don't know your relationship with your daughter, but you might also consider investing more time with her. Be firm, but be loving and always available. JMO. P.S. - the teen years are not easy. Not easy for parents. Not easy for teens.

 

[32ValveRom]

Curious which app she needs for assignments. You could probably replace iPhone 6 with an older iPhone where newer apps like snapchat would be harder to run. Just a thought.

Anyways, anyone remember that video posted here awhile back of an angry dad whooping his daughter's boyfriend. Not trying to give you ideas but it would be hard to "smooth talk" after everyone's saw that video lol

[video=youtube;Pk4MakQYSxY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk4MakQYSxY[/video]

 

[mammothcar1]

Why weren't charges pressed when he "man handled" your wife? He would have been leaving on a stretcher if he touched my wife. Sounds like she has some sort of app installed that hides selective apps. If it were me and I wanted to stay out of prison, she would get a tracphone from Walmart and would be sharing a Pune at school for her class work.

This^
They have apps that can hide apps.

It might look like an ordinary calculator or clock app, but when opened, they can access the other hidden app with just a few key strokes. You'd never know the hidden app is there.

 

[Mr. Mach-ete]

You need to put a full court press on this 18 year old dude, your daughter is only 14. Take the gloves off, put a restraining order on him, make his life Hell. Send a loud and clear message to him that you are no person to be ****ed with.

 

[usafimj]

I have a 6yr old girl and if it were me I'd take the phone, restore to factory settings, install the apps needed for school ONLY (no facebook, twitter, etc), then change Apple ID password as mentioned above.

 

[ON D BIT]

I'd complain to the superintendent of the district with your lawyer!

2 points. If the school and class/teacher expects students to complete assignments in class on mobile device or online they need to provide the students with the resources. They would be libel if they did not as it would be discriminatory.
If the school/district takes no action based on your complaint and the worst happens again they are libel for everything your daughter goes through physical and emotional. They should be very wary of a multi million dollar lawsuit!!

Take the phone and get a restraining order!

 

[wvmystichrome]

Thanks everyone for the suggestions.

ya I dont buy that they are constantly needing to install new apps for school work. If nothing else get a list of the apps from the school, make sure theyre there and change the password as mentioned

We met with school officials and they say they use them in class. Also ex-sister in law is a teacher there and she says the students do use their phones for assignments.

Also, Settings > Touch ID & Password. Uncheck iTunes and App Store. You want her to be able to use her thumbprint to unlock the phone but App Store should require the Apple ID password.

I will try this if I can get the phone. I have thought about deleting the Snapchat app from the ITunes store and resetting password. That way when she tries to reinstall she won't have the password to do it. But when you go to delete the app from the ITunes store it says it will not remove it from the IPhone, but if she does will it allow her to reinstall if it is not out there? That's the question.

Break his ****n legs. Trust me on this one. The longer you allow this the worse it will get. Seriously do it because if someone touched my wife I'd be going to jail.

Where is was just 17 and he had a few of his friends videoing the incident I was not going to way lay him. Too many people there that would probably say he did not touch her, but I saw and my daughter saw he did. My wife told him that night if he ever touched her again she would not be responsible for what I did to him.

Why weren't charges pressed when he "man handled" your wife? He would have been leaving on a stretcher if he touched my wife. Sounds like she has some sort of app installed that hides selective apps. If it were me and I wanted to stay out of prison, she would get a tracphone from Walmart and would be sharing a Pune at school for her class work.

Again he was just 17 and the cops had all just left the game so no one to report to. His day is coming.

Good phone limit advice in the above posts.

I would call the school and ask questions about the "need" for a smart phone for school required apps. I can't buy that every kid in her class has a smart phone. If I'm wrong, and they do (or one is provided), then you need to take some bigger steps to isolate these two. This situation is just plain BAD. Instill in her that as long as she is in YOUR house, it's YOUR rules. She needs to respect/honor both you and her mom. And that means abiding by the rules you both lay down. She might dislike the rules and tough love, but in a few years she will thank you. I don't know your relationship with your daughter, but you might also consider investing more time with her. Be firm, but be loving and always available. JMO. P.S. - the teen years are not easy. Not easy for parents. Not easy for teens.

Bob we met with the principal and assistant and they said they did need them for their work at times. We have tried our best, even our pastor has to make sure she understand to respect her parents. When she is not talking to this boy she is one of the best kids you would ever meet. But when she is talking to him we are dumb as coal buckets and elevators don't go to the top floor. Our relationship with our daughter is tight. We are with her around the clock except for school time. She is allowed to do very little without either her mom or myself being with her. That was the way I was raised and that is the way she is being raised. The guy has no respect for us. Because of that he makes sure she has none for us either. When she doesn't talk to him you could not ask for a better child. She makes good grades in school and excels in both basketball and soccer. If we could keep them apart we would be doing awesome. We had to get the principal and all the teachers to tell him to stay away from her at school or face the possibility of going to jail.

This^
They have apps that can hide apps.

It might look like an ordinary calculator or clock app, but when opened, they can access the other hidden app with just a few key strokes. You'd never know the hidden app is there.

Thank you for this information. It's searching time. When I get her phone next time and I find she has this, she gets the old flip phone for the summer.

You need to put a full court press on this 18 year old dude, your daughter is only 14. Take the gloves off, put a restraining order on him, make his life Hell. Send a loud and clear message to him that you are no person to be ****ed with.

Once end of July comes he is all mine. I have checked with the police and until he turns 18 I have to go after his mother or father. Well father is in jail and his mother is a lunatic or worse. I just have to wait it out for 2 more months before I can go after him personally. My wife knows the family and said they would set our house on fire at night to get rid of us if we went after him through his mother. So we are waiting.

I'd complain to the superintendent of the district with your lawyer!

2 points. If the school and class/teacher expects students to complete assignments in class on mobile device or online they need to provide the students with the resources. They would be libel if they did not as it would be discriminatory.
If the school/district takes no action based on your complaint and the worst happens again they are libel for everything your daughter goes through physical and emotional. They should be very wary of a multi million dollar lawsuit!!

Take the phone and get a restraining order!

We have opened up communications with them. We are just biding our time. We at first thought that once he graduates in two weeks it would be over and done with. But with some of the remarks my daughter says he has told her I think he will be around for a long time to come unless I get the restraining order.

 

[rborden]

He has already once man handled my wife to the point as I was going to take him out but my wife stopped me.

you need to have a "chat" with Junior someplace where the wife (and no other witnesses) is not around, if you know what I mean.