why cant i buy Amsoil at my local auto parts store? (autozone/advance auto or even at the race track; they advertise it!) I have to go thru a dealer, like a pyramid scam... :mj::mj::mj::mj:
why cant i buy Amsoil and my local auto parts store?
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I don't see how a company selling its products via their own web site (or dealer network), rather than brick & mortar store fronts, equates to a "pyramid scheme". :??:
(So-called pyramid schemes rarely involve real/tangible products, instead relying on recruitment of additional members to generate revenue.)
Amsoil does NOT require prospective customers to "go thru a dealer" or even to join their Preferred Customer program, though doing so can save buyers ~25% on their purchases.
Anyone CAN simply order what they want via the web site at retail price. (Spending more than $100 this way qualifies buyers for free shipping.)
Its just very odd that Amsoil doesn't sell there products thru part stores. Preferred Customer is still going thru a certain guy and you do have to still pay for shipping and handling for orders over $100. I will still use Amsoil but its just kind of bullshit. I still want to know WHY! Kind of weird/shady! I wish some Amsoil guys would show up to some big Ford meets, like the one we have at BEECH BEND in Bowling Green KY every year and sell their product!!!!
The reason you are not able to purchase AMSOIL in a local parts store is because they support small business owners. What this means is corporate stores such as Advanced Auto Parts, Auto Zone and others are not approved for us to be AMSOIL retail accounts. As a dealer I can have retail accounts under my dealership provided that the company does not have more than 12 stores.
Something to keep in mind is that buying in a store you are paying retail prices. If you become a preferred customer ($20/ year) you will save 25% (on average) off of retail prices. For example Signature Series 10W-30 cost $11.10 per quart retail. As a preferred customer that same quart of oil cost $7.85 per quart. You still have to pay tax and shipping. AMSOIL has 13 distribution centers, the nearest one for you is in Columbus, OH. On a typical oil change shipping cost around $10-12. At most I have seen it take no more than 4 business days to receive products once ordered. In most cases it is even quicker.
Even when you buy online, a store or at a car show there is still an Independent Dealer that is assigned that type of purchase. Retail Online Catalog orders are assigned a dealer based on a few things within AMSOIL, normally assigned to the closest independent dealer. The profits and commission credits from that retail order still goes to an independent dealer. Similarly applies for preferred customer, retail accounts and commercial accounts. Stores are signed up as retail accounts by AMSOIL Dealers. Free shipping is only provided on retail orders over $100. Preferred Customers do not receive free shipping. In the end the best way to save money is by being a preferred customer.
Link for Preferred Customer: http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/buy-wholesale/?subcategory=50&zo=5251070
Something to keep in mind is that buying in a store you are paying retail prices. If you become a preferred customer ($20/ year) you will save 25% (on average) off of retail prices. For example Signature Series 10W-30 cost $11.10 per quart retail. As a preferred customer that same quart of oil cost $7.85 per quart. You still have to pay tax and shipping. AMSOIL has 13 distribution centers, the nearest one for you is in Columbus, OH. On a typical oil change shipping cost around $10-12. At most I have seen it take no more than 4 business days to receive products once ordered. In most cases it is even quicker.
Even when you buy online, a store or at a car show there is still an Independent Dealer that is assigned that type of purchase. Retail Online Catalog orders are assigned a dealer based on a few things within AMSOIL, normally assigned to the closest independent dealer. The profits and commission credits from that retail order still goes to an independent dealer. Similarly applies for preferred customer, retail accounts and commercial accounts. Stores are signed up as retail accounts by AMSOIL Dealers. Free shipping is only provided on retail orders over $100. Preferred Customers do not receive free shipping. In the end the best way to save money is by being a preferred customer.
Link for Preferred Customer: http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/buy-wholesale/?subcategory=50&zo=5251070
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The logic behind this question dumbfounds me. How many high end performance automotive products are only available from the manufacurer or select dealer and not AZ, O'r, Adv, Summit, etc? I guess this makes them shady and illegitimate as well :rollseyes
Main reason I'm not a fan of the dealer thing is getting hit on to buy from guys that have signed up to be dealers. Someone walks up to talk to me about my car, then ask "what oil do you use?" And I know where it's going. As for it being a pyramid scheme - can a dealer sign up another dealer "under" him and he then get's a cut from his sales, if yes - it's a pyramid model - maybe not a "scheme" since there is product invovled, but it's a pyramid.
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Question- if you wanted a product that potentially could be better for your vehicle as well as save you money, would you not be interested in learning about the product? There is different techniques on how to approach a potential customer, some are pushing for a sale on the spot. I speak with individuals all the time. I do not force a sale on them. I provide them information on the benefits of AMSOIL and let them as the individual. I can completely understand how some approach like there are a door to door salesman. Learning how to interact with potential customer is a learned process. It has as much to do about speaking with them as it does listening to them.
No, you don't. You can become a Preferred Customer via the Amsoil link I provided. No "guy" is required.
+1.
+1. I had to buy my MGW Shifter directly from MGW and pay shipping because I couldn't locate any retailers selling them. Add them to the "weird/shady" column too...? :rollseyes
Support small business owners? That just sounds like BS. Amsoil is in the business to make money and should be to get their product to their customers, right? yes or no Capitalism!!! Make it EZ for me to buy your products from local stores. And we are talking about MOTOR OIL, not performance parts!!
01cobravortech
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So why is it so easy for us, in other parts of the country to so easily order Amsoil products online and have them shipped to the home, but its apparently incredibly difficult and a logistical challenge to do the same in KY?
good answer Jesus... your the guy that's brings a sledgehammer to hang a picture too... maybe you need a larger IQ to understand. So I guess you like having to order motor oil online verses buying to at a local parts store. Your the guy that walks around the problem instead of trying to solving the problem... Still did not answer my question! WHY!
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again I will continue to use Amsoil products, I just wish we had a faster easier way of buying their products.
As i have stated before, AMSOIL business model is designed to support the small business owner. Small businesses is what built this country. I am not sure how it is faster and easier to go to a store vs. getting on the internet placing an order and having it shipped directly to your home or place of business. Yes you still have to pay tax and shipping but if you are a preferred customer you are saving money than going to a retail automotive store and paying full retail prices plus tax. Also take into account your time and gas expended to buy the products at the store.
You as an individual do not have to agree with how AMSOIL does business. They are very successful in what they are doing. AMSOIL was started as a small business in 1972 by an Air Force Fighter pilot and is still family owned. They have stuck to their roots when you look at their business model.
You as an individual do not have to agree with how AMSOIL does business. They are very successful in what they are doing. AMSOIL was started as a small business in 1972 by an Air Force Fighter pilot and is still family owned. They have stuck to their roots when you look at their business model.
I ordered Oil for my 2nd oil change and it took 4 days to get here with regular shipping. I ordered during the weekend too.
Amsoil is awesome and great for peace of mind, btw here is what the inside of my coyote looks like after 8200 miles on 2nd amsoil oil change. Pic was taken after all the oil drained and was about to put 8qts of Amsoil:
Amsoil is awesome and great for peace of mind, btw here is what the inside of my coyote looks like after 8200 miles on 2nd amsoil oil change. Pic was taken after all the oil drained and was about to put 8qts of Amsoil:
01cobravortech
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There is no problem with how Amsoil does business. If you're going to cry over a few measly more dollars for Amsoil oil, them maybe the 'cheap brand' that you get at Advanced is more appropriate for you, since you don't want the best in your motor. The only problem that needs solving here is how to get rid of that cheap spirit that you have.
I buy from my local auto parts store. Yes, I'm paying more than I would being a preferred customer, but I like being able to walk into the store and walk out with what I want. The store is a locally owned business with some stores around my area. I feel a little better supporting the local business than the big national chain. And if in the event I need parts they have people behind the counter that know the difference between a lug nut and a power band.
Short answer. . . Maybe there's a locally owned auto parts store that is a dealer?
Short answer. . . Maybe there's a locally owned auto parts store that is a dealer?
We have a shop that is semi-local (20 miles away) to me that I go and grab my oil from. He has a shop that rents lifts by the hour so I want to make sure that I support him incase I need to rent a lift down the line to work on my mustang. Also he gives me a little higher than preferred rates too so I don't even end up paying that much more. Maybe 10 bucks more per oil change. He carries everything in stock and I just stop by and grab it, btw that reminds me I need to grab some trans fluid to swap out sometime.
Please allow me to clarify what happened and why Amsoil does business the way they do.
In the beginning, Amsoil owner approached the big label retail stores for them to carry his product. All of them denied it because it wasn't from a big oil company label like Texaco, Chevron, Mobil, etc. The owner was forced to rely on a dealer network to get his product to consumers. This turned out to be a huge success. Now, the owner refuses to turn his back on the dealer network that made his brand a success. Knowing that, you will now understand why Amsoil isn't purchased by any corporation with more than 15 stores. This eliminates large corporate buying power that would make it impossible for the dealer network to compete.
Calling it a pyramid scheme or any other code names suggesting fraud is ludicrous. I will use NOTHING else in anything I drive. To this day, I've yet to discover ONE lubricant formulation that can compete on the same level of performance. I'm not talking about wear alone, I'm talking about the entire field of test. TBN, NOACK, wear ppm, oxidation resistance, and change intervals.
boom! Headshot!!
In the beginning, Amsoil owner approached the big label retail stores for them to carry his product. All of them denied it because it wasn't from a big oil company label like Texaco, Chevron, Mobil, etc. The owner was forced to rely on a dealer network to get his product to consumers. This turned out to be a huge success. Now, the owner refuses to turn his back on the dealer network that made his brand a success. Knowing that, you will now understand why Amsoil isn't purchased by any corporation with more than 15 stores. This eliminates large corporate buying power that would make it impossible for the dealer network to compete.
Calling it a pyramid scheme or any other code names suggesting fraud is ludicrous. I will use NOTHING else in anything I drive. To this day, I've yet to discover ONE lubricant formulation that can compete on the same level of performance. I'm not talking about wear alone, I'm talking about the entire field of test. TBN, NOACK, wear ppm, oxidation resistance, and change intervals.
boom! Headshot!!
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