This is contrary to your opening premise.
Religion vs Science debate: bring it in here
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This is contrary to your opening premise.
Well, He did create man correctly. Which is the funny irony in your post.
He only gave man one law. They were free to do w/e else. But they decided to not listen, sin and be punished.
The probability that the 40 or so writers of the bible got scientifical/medical facts, historical and geographical facts correct across the entire bible is astronomical. Esp given they had little science and historical record to go by.
What proves the plagiarisms is how those later books stole from Ba'al, Hindu, Hammurabbi:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_religion
Religion is manmade out of ignorance. Evolution is paving the way to a brighter future.
The catholic church is a giant scheme and full of lies and falsehoods. They countlessly did things in history to maintain power and control. That is all the catholic church is about. As well as several other "churches".
Real, biblical churches are run on biblical commandments and examples, of which these fake churches (like the catholic church) do not run.
So you mean NOBODY doing circumcisions ever said to another "Hey man, wait a good week or so to snip the tip, the bleeding stops quicker"?
I find that hard to believe. I guess ignorance is bliss.
Ill continue believing humans are smart enough to figure that one out. I guess the Bible told us how to wipe our asses with toilet paper too and to shower daily?
It is the same Church that founded your religion and consolidate its books and spread its word. I agree your faith is full of lies based on a bad tree planted give off bad fruit.
Huh, thats interesting.
The book you swear by contradicts the ENTIRETY OF OBSERVED HUMAN LIFE by proclaiming a man came back from the dead, but you're hacked off at science for contradictions and changes?
:dw:
telling someone "do not murder" is not plagiarism. this is a simple statement of a universal truth. you act like hammurabbi code had a trademark on "do not murder".
Just like I can say "2+2=4"....I am not plagiarizing anyone. I am simply writing a fact.
I think the guy in your avatar taught you that. Conan FTW
As a self proclaimed enthusiast of the scientific method why is religion an area where you don't apply the same scrutiny of empiricism you yourself assert is so full of merit.
What other things do you believe outside of religion without evidence?
Modern man has done well to cherry pick so that we don't still abide by all of the disgusting bronze age ideas like knowing the correct ways to own other people.
It is curious that an omnipotent and omniscient being wasn't able to infallibly direct man to create transcendent scripture and that in order to actually behave morally we mere humans have had to figure it out for ourselves and disregard many of the celestial suggestions.
We may not be able to show physical proof that the bible is true, but neither can you show that its not true
Faith
Faith
well thats weird since the catholic church wasnt started till decades after the christian church.
it is interesting because Christianity is actually none of the above.
that is the biggest problem is "churches" seeking power and money claiming to be christian have ruined the view of christianity to the world. True christianity isnt about power or money...in fact, its about giving and helping your fellow christians.
That is why it is called a miracle
Are you saying these had to be divine revelations because no one could have known them at those times in history?
Not necessarily. First, there are disputes over the timelines of the books of the Bible. Second, many things have been discovered, forgotten and then re-discovered over the ages. Eratosthenes is usually credited for have discovered the Earth is a sphere in about 240BC Alexandria. But it may have been discovered many times before. Sailors knew the Earth was not flat long before Columbus came along.
As for the idea that the Earth exists in space? Someone probably looked at the moon and the sun and said, "I wonder if Earth is the same way?" That could have happened at any time in human history.
Not necessarily. First, there are disputes over the timelines of the books of the Bible. Second, many things have been discovered, forgotten and then re-discovered over the ages. Eratosthenes is usually credited for have discovered the Earth is a sphere in about 240BC Alexandria. But it may have been discovered many times before. Sailors knew the Earth was not flat long before Columbus came along.
As for the idea that the Earth exists in space? Someone probably looked at the moon and the sun and said, "I wonder if Earth is the same way?" That could have happened at any time in human history.
You cannot prove the non existence of anything.
I cannot prove that unicorns don't exist, however that does not strengthen the assertion that they do.
Regarding faith.
I do not understand how faith, especially absolute faith is considered a virtue. Faith is always championed by religious people and I simply don't get it. Absolute faith is irrational and dangerous.
while true...you admit that it changed multiple times....it just so happens the ones written in the bible were the accurate ones? by pure chance?
I couldnt make guesses 100% accurate...much less put me and 39 people together.
The problem with this line of argument is, it then becomes valid for any claim.
We may not be able to show physical proof that dragons are real, but neither can you show that they are not real.
We may not be able to show physical proof that Zeus and Thor are real, but neither can you show that they are not real.
and yet you have just as much absolute faith the bible is fake and false.
takes as much faith to believe it is true as it is to believe it isnt true.
The miracle is not that humans exist.
Its that humans STILL exist, IE that we havent obliterated ourselves yet.
not really a miracle since my bible tells me God is in control of that.
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