1.) We can't know why all the holy books exist. .
This is contrary to your opening premise.
1.) We can't know why all the holy books exist. .
Perhaps had your gawds created man correctly there would be no need for the butchering. LOL, sign a pact with a gawd by snipping foreskin, you gotta laugh regardless how religious you are.
http://www.parenting.com/health-guide/circumcision/circumcision-history
Sure it wasnt because people realized this by trial and error?
that doesnt prove plagiarisms at all.
what it does show is that no matter the race or location, all men seek the same sins.
it also shows that punishment for sins is needed as well.
even romans talks about gentiles following the law though they didnt have it. that is, there are universal truths.
do not murder is applicable no matter the society....do not steal is applicable no matter the time....do not lie is applicable no matter the setting.
whether Israelite, Russian, Chinese, Babylonian....those truths are evident when it comes to sin.
Furthermore, since we all descended from Adam and Eve...patriarchal law was passed down before the law of Moses. So, do not murder was passed down from generation to generation as well as when people's multiplied and spread out over the earth. murder is not wrong only because some christian bible says so, it is because God said so from the beginning.
Interestingly enough though, when it was postulated that the earth was in fact Round and not Flat, was it not the Church who negated this claim as blasphemy?
What about when they theorized that the center of the solar system was in fact, not the earth but the Sun? Oh man, the Church hated that one.
The probability that the 40 or so writers of the bible got scientifical/medical facts, historical and geographical facts correct across the entire bible is astronomical. Esp given they had little science and historical record to go by.
The catholic church is a giant scheme and full of lies and falsehoods. They countlessly did things in history to maintain power and control. That is all the catholic church is about. As well as several other "churches".
Real, biblical churches are run on biblical commandments and examples, of which these fake churches (like the catholic church) do not run.
RELIGION is a giant scheme and full of lies and falsehoods. They countlessly do things in history to maintain power and control. That is all RELIGION is about. As well as several other "RELIGIONS".
IIts the contradictions and constant changing that are annoying...and it wouldnt be so bad if they didnt act like things were so accurate and factual.
What proves the plagiarisms is how those later books stole from Ba'al, Hindu, Hammurabbi:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_religion
Religion is manmade out of ignorance. Evolution is paving the way to a brighter future.
So you mean NOBODY doing circumcisions ever said to another "Hey man, wait a good week or so to snip the tip, the bleeding stops quicker"?
I find that hard to believe. I guess ignorance is bliss.
Ill continue believing humans are smart enough to figure that one out. I guess the Bible told us how to wipe our asses with toilet paper too and to shower daily?
I believe in God. No, I have no proof.
For that, there is no better tool than the scientific method. It alone, of all mankind's philosophies, is the only self-correcting method of understanding how the universe works. The Scientific Method: Learn it, Live it, Love it.
All Holy books exist for one thing: to teach us what we need to know to live a good life and prepare us for the next one.
It is the same Church that founded your religion and consolidate its books and spread its word. I agree your faith is full of lies based on a bad tree planted give off bad fruit.
Huh, thats interesting.
The book you swear by contradicts the ENTIRETY OF OBSERVED HUMAN LIFE by proclaiming a man came back from the dead, but you're hacked off at science for contradictions and changes?
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"He hangs the earth on nothing." - Job 26:7
The book of Job was written in 2000-1800 BC.
"He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth" - Isaiah 40:22
The book of Isaiah was written around 800 BC.
How did the authors of these books know that the Earth is suspended by nothing in space, or that the Earth was not flat but in fact round?
We may not be able to show physical proof that the bible is true, but neither can you show that its not true
Faith
Are you saying these had to be divine revelations because no one could have known them at those times in history?
Not necessarily. First, there are disputes over the timelines of the books of the Bible. Second, many things have been discovered, forgotten and then re-discovered over the ages. Eratosthenes is usually credited for have discovered the Earth is a sphere in about 240BC Alexandria. But it may have been discovered many times before. Sailors knew the Earth was not flat long before Columbus came along.
As for the idea that the Earth exists in space? Someone probably looked at the moon and the sun and said, "I wonder if Earth is the same way?" That could have happened at any time in human history.
We may not be able to show physical proof that the bible is true, but neither can you show that its not true
Faith
You cannot prove the non existence of anything.
I cannot prove that unicorns don't exist, however that does not strengthen the assertion that they do.
Regarding faith.
I do not understand how faith, especially absolute faith is considered a virtue. Faith is always championed by religious people and I simply don't get it. Absolute faith is irrational and dangerous.
That is why it is called a miracle
The miracle is not that humans exist.
Its that humans STILL exist, IE that we havent obliterated ourselves yet.